Trump Being Treasonous on Television

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Re: Trump Being Treasonous on Television

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Themis wrote:
Water Dog wrote:Curious how you folks here will react to this...


Who is more likely to tell the president of the US the truth in regards to Russian meddling, Us intelligence or Putin? Has Putin provided any evidence or has it just been rigorous denials of involvement? Did Putin not at one time also rigorously deny invading Crimea?


Give Putin time to provide the evidence. Keep in mind that Trump wants to work with Putin's people to get to the bottom of this. He thinks that is an awesome idea. Give Putin and his men a few weeks and I am confident they will provide the evidence Trump needs to show that Russia is completely innocent and it was all Obama and Hillary.
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HOLY crap.

This professional liar is now on live television in full damage control mode, now saying he misspoke and meant to say he didn't see any reason why Russian WOULDN'T interfere in our elections. He said he meant to say WOULDN'T instead of WOULD.


https://Twitter.com/ThomboyD/status/1019291145287839744
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canpakes wrote:...considering that Trump doesn’t seem that sophisticated (at least he hasn’t ever offered any reason to think otherwise),

You may protest, but you can't argue against the fact that he was sophisticated enough to get elected President....and that is not a bungler's task.

canpakes wrote:... and Putin isn’t that stupid.

Interesting, but do you have any insight as to Putin's motivation(s)?
I mean, let us play this scenario out...Putin pulls apart the US and our democracy crumbles - how does Putin suddenly benefit from that? Will the world turn to Russia at that point?

canpakes wrote:Given the second item above, Trump would be exploring his Dunning-Kruger limits in thinking that he is going to outsmart Putin with flattery.

Unlikely, this is more of a dragging America kickin', screamin', and hair-firin' into the grown up world. The incompetent Instagram-esque global/domestic policy of the last 8 years has to be corrected.

canpakes wrote:Trump has only managed to look competent so far, and only on domestic issues, because he has had the unwavering support of Republicans in Congress and the Federalist Society eager to work their agenda through him and do his work for him.

Them Supreme Court decisions haven't hurt either....by the way, nobody screaming today about that pending Justice seat appointment, are they?
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Water Dog wrote:Curious how you folks here will react to this...

Angelo Codevilla wrote:The high professional quality of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin’s performance at their Monday press conference in Helsinki contrasts sharply with the obloquy by which the bipartisan U.S. ruling class showcases its willful incompetence.

Though I voted for Trump, I’ve never been a fan of his and I am not one now. But, having taught diplomacy for many years, I would choose the Trump-Putin press conference as an exemplar of how these things should be done. Both spoke with the frankness and specificity of serious business. This performance rates an A+.

.....

What that ignorant “journalist” was demanding of Trump—precisely what the credentialed experts should know better than to have demanded—was that the president of the United States scream at the president of Russia for all his evils. Competitive “virtue signaling” has become the way of political life in America. To the extent that it bleeds into America’s foreign policy, we are all in big trouble.


https://amgreatness.com/2018/07/17/dipl ... rit-small/


There's a pretty wide area in-between repeatedly attacking longtime US allies, calling the EU a foe, threatening NATO, attacking the US media as the enemy of the people, dismissing US intelligence services on foreign soil, criticizing the US itself, endlessly praising Russia's murderous autocratic ruler, repeating that ruler's propaganda to disavow Russia's attacks on the US, and not just "scream at the president of Russia for all his evils." Like, a f-ton of space to operate in.
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Kevin Graham wrote:HOLY ____.

This professional liar is now on live television in full damage control mode, now saying he misspoke and meant to say he didn't see any reason why Russian WOULDN'T interfere in our elections. He said he meant to say WOULDN'T instead of WOULD.


https://Twitter.com/ThomboyD/status/1019291145287839744


Now that Trump has completely flip-flopped to save his own ass, it will be fun watching his defenders start defending him for now saying the intelligence agencies are RIGHT, after watching them defend Trump assert the exact opposite for two years.
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Kevin Graham wrote:
Kevin Graham wrote:HOLY ____.

This professional liar is now on live television in full damage control mode, now saying he misspoke and meant to say he didn't see any reason why Russian WOULDN'T interfere in our elections. He said he meant to say WOULDN'T instead of WOULD.


https://Twitter.com/ThomboyD/status/1019291145287839744


Now that Trump has completely flip-flopped to save his own ass, it will be fun watching his defenders start defending him for now saying the intelligence agencies are RIGHT, after watching them defend Trump assert the exact opposite for two years.


They already demonstrated gymnastic skills over Birtherism. :wink: What a bunch of tools.
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Kevin Graham wrote:HOLY ____.

This professional liar is now on live television in full damage control mode, now saying he misspoke and meant to say he didn't see any reason why Russian WOULDN'T interfere in our elections. He said he meant to say WOULDN'T instead of WOULD.


https://Twitter.com/ThomboyD/status/1019291145287839744


I thought maybe this was a joke, but nope. Trump is full damage control mode. He's trying to fix this fiasco by lying about it. Typically he digs in and defends the most indefensible behavior. It must be really bad if he's trying to back pedal. It's clear from the context of his comments, and the fact that he put extra emphasis on the word "would" in that sentence, that he did not misspeak. He would be better off owning this rather than digging an even deeper hole by lying about it. Besides, that sentence wasn't the only troubling sentence from that press conference.
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Kevin Graham wrote:HOLY crap.

This professional liar is now on live television in full damage control mode, now saying he misspoke and meant to say he didn't see any reason why Russian WOULDN'T interfere in our elections. He said he meant to say WOULDN'T instead of WOULD.


https://Twitter.com/ThomboyD/status/1019291145287839744

Lol. Watch the brain trust of Fox News fall in line and turn to treating their viewers like juvenile morons by asking them to believe it, and that viewing audience to satisfy that need without question.

subs will be along any moment to do a dance for us.
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Kevin Graham wrote:HOLY ____.

This professional liar is now on live television in full damage control mode, now saying he misspoke and meant to say he didn't see any reason why Russian WOULDN'T interfere in our elections. He said he meant to say WOULDN'T instead of WOULD.


https://Twitter.com/ThomboyD/status/1019291145287839744


Hi Water Dog!

Care to step up and say we ought to believe he isn't lying? That he really did mean to say the opposite of what he is on record as saying?

Because Obama, because Hillary ...
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"I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be Russia. President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today."

Yeah, that sentence makes sense, right?

Even today when Trump's damage control mode qualifies his "support" for the intelligence agencies when he still says it "could be others" besides Russia... that's effectively NOT trusting our intelligence agencies who've stated emphatically that it wasn't "other."

It was Russia.

Period.
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