So you assert. I assert otherwise. One assertion is as good as another. Actually you missed the point yet again.
And you are trying to ride both sides of a fence you yourself seem to be trying to pull down. I could say that you were never a "real" christian, but that is something between you and the LORD.
I'm not a Christian nor a Mormon. I was in the past.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
So you assert. I assert otherwise. One assertion is as good as another. Actually you missed the point yet again.
And you are trying to ride both sides of a fence you yourself seem to be trying to pull down. I could say that you were never a "real" christian, but that is something between you and the LORD.
I'm not a Christian nor a Mormon. I was in the past.
Unfortunately for you, Micah was on the books as a Mormon member and baptized as such. Which means Micah was as much a member of that organization as is possible according to the routines of that organization. Mormons accept paperwork and documentation as proof of one's good standing ----- Christians on the other hand do not.
LittleNipper wrote:Unfortunately for you, Micah was on the books as a Mormon member and baptized as such. Which means Micah was as much a member of that organization as is possible according to the routines of that organization. Mormons accept paperwork and documentation as proof of one's good standing ----- Christians on the other hand do not.
Here, I'll hold your hand through this. You stated:
First off, this writer isn't a "generic" Christian. The fact is this man was another of some religion's failure.
I attempted, poorly it seems, to illustrate what you in fact did by stating myself that Micah was not a true blue Mormon. Does that help yet? I don't know this person and cannot know whether he was or wasn't and that wasn't the point. The point was that was what you did with your statement. It's the "no true Scottsman fallacy" by name. You made it. Then I made it on purpose to illustrate how you were wrong, so your correcting me is right. Now correct yourself as well and we're there.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
LittleNipper wrote:Unfortunately for you, Micah was on the books as a Mormon member and baptized as such. Which means Micah was as much a member of that organization as is possible according to the routines of that organization. Mormons accept paperwork and documentation as proof of one's good standing ----- Christians on the other hand do not.
Here, I'll hold your hand through this. You stated:
First off, this writer isn't a "generic" Christian. The fact is this man was another of some religion's failure.
I attempted, poorly it seems, to illustrate what you in fact did by stating myself that Micah was not a true blue Mormon. Does that help yet? I don't know this person and cannot know whether he was or wasn't and that wasn't the point. The point was that was what you did with your statement. It's the "no true Scottsman fallacy" by name. You made it. Then I made it on purpose to illustrate how you were wrong, so your correcting me is right. Now correct yourself as well and we're there.
By his works one will know the Christian. That speaker you found was not a Christian as He rejected Christ's work. Now, that doesn't mean works make the Christian, but the things the person does exposes what he believes to be true to others. So the works didn't save the Christian they become a part of his leading by the Holy Spirit and ultimately his legacy in the salvation of others by his example. The man you discovered is confusing people and holding GOD's Word in contempt, while uplifting his own humanistic logic.
LittleNipper wrote:By his works one will know the Christian. That speaker you found was not a Christian as He rejected Christ's work. Now, that doesn't mean works make the Christian, but the things the person does exposes what he believes to be true to others. So the works didn't save the Christian they become a part of his leading by the Holy Spirit and ultimately his legacy in the salvation of others by his example. The man you discovered is confusing people and holding GOD's Word in contempt, while uplifting his own humanistic logic.
You simply do what the Mormon leadership does here. If someone doesn't come to the conclusion that fits your world view you define them to be in error and wrong. So a Christian is a Christian until he's not a Christian. Deepities of theology I guess. You see it's still a mess to my view. You never do anything good. God does it in you. That's utterly worthless. I could give you a chemical to ingest that leaves you in a state of paralysis and then take over moving your body for you, In this manner I can make you do many good deeds, say helping an old lady cross the street for example. Why would that be significant? Well others can see your example and choose to become paralyzed themselves. Wow.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
LittleNipper wrote:By his works one will know the Christian. That speaker you found was not a Christian as He rejected Christ's work. Now, that doesn't mean works make the Christian, but the things the person does exposes what he believes to be true to others. So the works didn't save the Christian they become a part of his leading by the Holy Spirit and ultimately his legacy in the salvation of others by his example. The man you discovered is confusing people and holding GOD's Word in contempt, while uplifting his own humanistic logic.
You simply do what the Mormon leadership does here. If someone doesn't come to the conclusion that fits your world view you define them to be in error and wrong. So a Christian is a Christian until he's not a Christian. Deepities of theology I guess. You see it's still a mess to my view. You never do anything good. God does it in you. That's utterly worthless. I could give you a chemical to ingest that leaves you in a state of paralysis and then take over moving your body for you, In this manner I can make you do many good deeds, say helping an old lady cross the street for example. Why would that be significant? Well others can see your example and choose to become paralyzed themselves. Wow.
You forget, I don't answer to "religious authorities". I answer to GOD and respond to HIS WORD. That is all I'm expected to contend with. Man looks on the outward appearances; however, GOD sees one's heart.
LittleNipper wrote:You forget, I don't answer to "religious authorities". I answer to GOD and respond to HIS WORD. That is all I'm expected to contend with. Man looks on the outward appearances; however, GOD sees one's heart.
But you, not god, is the one making the assertion.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
LittleNipper wrote:You forget, I don't answer to "religious authorities". I answer to GOD and respond to HIS WORD. That is all I'm expected to contend with. Man looks on the outward appearances; however, GOD sees one's heart.
But you, not god, is the one making the assertion.
I didn't write the Bible. The Bible (God's Word) makes the assertion.
LittleNipper wrote: I didn't write the Bible. The Bible (God's Word) makes the assertion.
Maybe, but someone like yourself did.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee