Impeachment hearings

[_subgenius]

Subgenius, " so am I the president now"

You are able to come up with the most bizarre comments.

Does this one have some sort of meaning?

apparently you struggle with how memes work, but you ok.

[_Chap]

you struggle with how memes work

[quote="subgenius"]

No. it's more that memes usually have some deeper contextual relation to the thread than just having the word 'president' in them while the thread is about impeachment.

But even though past experience suggests the effort is hopeless it is hard not to keep looking for some kind of sense in a subgenius post.

[_canpakes]

But even though past experience suggests the effort is hopeless it is hard not to keep looking for some kind of sense in a subgenius post.

I like your sense of optimism, Chap. : )

[_MeDotOrg]

Doesn't the fact that Putin is so supportive of Trump and so against his impeachment give any of you hard right conservatives any pause at all?

No. They'd rather be damned traitors. I've seen the T-shirts.

Vladimir Putin's fan boys:

[_Gunnar]

Doesn't the fact that Putin is so supportive of Trump and so against his impeachment give any of you hard right conservatives any pause at all?

No. They'd rather be damned traitors. I've seen the T-shirts.

Vladimir Putin's fan boys:

Yup! That's incredibly damning evidence, isn't it?

If they are going to so blindly support a would be tyrant like Trump, they might just as well be Russians.

[_Gunnar]

It isn't just that Trump refuses to testify, he whines about not being able to defend himself! So the Democrats in the House invited him to come do so, but he refuses because he knows he will be under oath and he cannot stop himself from committing perjury. But he also threatens other people if they testify and even while they're testifying, which is illegal. He also orders people not to testify as if he has the authority to do that. He thinks he's the CEO of a country, basically a dictator, and that his executive privilege is all encompassing when it isn't. But on top of all this obstruction, trying to prevent people from testifying, the primary point is that he whines about the House holding a "trial" which to his mind is "unfair" because he isn't allowed to defend himself. Well, they called his bluff because he doesn't want anyone testifying on his behalf, especially himself.

Yes, even Trump's advisors and advocates tacitly agree that Trump's testifying under oath would be problematic, because he would be incapable of stopping himself from committing perjury. The fool has been known to lie even when the truth would have served him better.

[_EAllusion]

This is a fairly significant development today in impeachment news:

https://www.justsecurity.org/67863/excl ... -concerns/

The Pentagon was repeatedly attempting to dissuade the Trump admin from withholding security aid to Ukraine because it was potentially illegal. This information was originally redacted in a way that seems to serve no other purpose than to obstruct knowledge of this fact. It also openly contradicts what the Trump admin told Congress about what occurred.

They performed an illicit act the Pentagon warned them was potentially illegal, tried to conceal everything about that fact, then seemingly lied about it when Congress was attempting to investigate it while withholding key evidence.

If they get away with this, and they will, what else do they get away with?

[_Gunnar]

If they get away with this, and they will, what else do they get away with?

Starting a thermonuclear war over Iran and, perhaps, North Korean intransigence? I fear that Trump would have little hesitation about using nuclear weapons if Iran didn't quickly back down. He has already been known to peevishly ask military advisors why we can't use nuclear weapons if we have them.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Thanks for the link, EA. My god these emails are about as damaging as they could be, not just to Trump, who was clearly personally directing the hold on funds while concealing that it was actually the core of a plot to extort Ukraine into interfering in the 2020 election, but also Barr. Barr heavily redacted those emails, and made sure all the evidence of that plot and the objections by the Pentagon lawyers about violations of law were hidden from the American public, THAT INCLUDES CONGRESS. There are so many redactions that are clear coverups it’s impossible to package it in a way that makes for fast reading.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

The DoJ is currently arguing in court today that the federal courts have no role in adjudicating whether McGhan has to comply with Congressional subpoenas. It is arguing Congress can use it powers over the purse, impeachment articles, etc. but the courts need to stay out of it.

The Trump admin is also arguing in public at the exact same time that it does not have to comply with subpoenas until the courts weigh in on them as the proper authority to determine their legality.

It’s passed time for Congress to enforce its inherent contempt powers and start arresting Trump admin officials failing to comply with lawful subpoenas. The cost of doing this does not compare to the cost of not at this point.