Impeachment hearings

[_EAllusion]

https://Twitter.com/AP/status/1217799621394812928

Congrats to the Trump admin on finally getting Ukraine to investigate Americans.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Racheal Maddow interview with Parnas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RybF1rVa35Y

This is a one second loop. Do you even internet? My god you're exasperating.

ANYWAY.

https://apnews.com/708b81d4c77038eb0b751c30f72ff315

Parnas’ account undercuts a key Republican defense of Trump during the impeachment investigation — that Trump’s withholding of vital military aid to Ukraine last summer wasn’t a quid pro quo for Biden investigations.

“President Trump knew exactly what was going on,” said Parnas, a Soviet-born Florida businessman facing a raft of criminal charges related to campaign finance violations. “He was aware of all my movements. I wouldn’t do anything without the consent of Rudy Giuliani, or the President.”

Parnas said every communication he had with Zelenskiy’s team was at the direction of Giuliani, whom he regularly overheard briefing Trump about their progress by phone.

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

More damning evidence released:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/1 ... nce-099413

Do you remember when our Liar in Chief said he didn't know Parnas?

The documents also include several photos of Parnas with members of Trump’s family and his administration — including Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, and then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions — further highlighting Parnas’ ties and access to the president and members of his inner circle.

How could Trump and Giuliani be so dumb as to interact with someone that would leave so much evidence of their collusion!??!?!?

House impeachment investigators released a new set of evidence that was obtained from Lev Parnas, an indicted former associate of President Donald Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani — including voicemails, photos, and text messages between Parnas and high-level figures within Trump’s orbit.

The material includes voicemail messages Parnas received from Giuliani and Victoria Toensing, a prominent Trump-aligned lawyer, both of whom have been identified as players in an effort to force the removal of the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, during the spring.

Anyway. None of this matters to anyone who supports Trump because, as we've seen from Ajax, they're perfectly ok with our Republic dividing itself into smaller states so - FINALLY - White people can implement national socialist policies in West Virginia. <- That's a literal position of Ajax, by the way.

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Not that any Trump supporters on this forum really care about Lev Parnas, but I feel like maybe it'd be helpful for them to understand who he is. Before I do that I'll just caveat with this:

This, once again, confirms my suspicion that Ajax and the other turbo-brainlets really don't read much if a post goes beyond a few sentences. There has been ample posts detailing the reasons why Trump, and by extension the GOP, is a problem for a host of reasons.

Lev Parnas works for two people.

#1 - Rudy Giuliani on behalf of President Trump

#2 - Pro-Russian Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash who is detained in Vienna fighting extradition to the US on bribery and racketeering charges

Here's the Wiki article on this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Fi ... ne_scandal

It should be noted that Parnas tried to flee to... Vienna, Austria to avoid prosecution for all sorts of stuff related to Trump and the GOP. I'm not going to bother breaking that out because ain't no one gonna read that crap anyway. It should be noted that Rudy Giuliani was attempting to get out of Dodge and was en route to... you guessed it, Vienna, Austria.

Anywhey.

- President Trump removed Amb. Yovanovitch from her post following complaints from Giuliani and his associates. <- That would be Parnas and Firtash, by the way.

- GOP Cong. Sessions attacked Amb. Yovanovitch through conservative media outlets. Did you Sessions was being funded by Giuliani's associates Parnas and Fruman with money funneled to them by Firtash? Anyone seeing the picture, yet?

- Trump, Giuliani and his associates pressured the Ukrainian government to discredit Russian election interference. Firtash's hands are all over this, and it's presumed Russia's hands are all over him.

- Trump pressured the Ukrainian President, what's his nuts, to publicly announce a fabricated investigation into Trump's domestic political rival on CNN.

These are facts, man. You can either understand why this is important, and why Trump must be removed from office, or you can just get comfortable with the dissolution of our democracy.

- Doc

[_subgenius]

Not that any Trump supporters on this forum really care about Lev Parnas, but I feel like maybe it'd be helpful for them to understand who he is. Before I do that I'll just caveat with this:

This, once again, confirms my suspicion that Ajax and the other turbo-brainlets really don't read much if a post goes beyond a few sentences. There has been ample posts detailing the reasons why Trump, and by extension the GOP, is a problem for a host of reasons.

Lev Parnas works for two people.

#1 - Rudy Giuliani on behalf of President Trump

#2 - Pro-Russian Ukrainian oligarch Dmytro Firtash who is detained in Vienna fighting extradition to the US on bribery and racketeering charges

Here's the Wiki article on this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Fi ... ne_scandal

It should be noted that Parnas tried to flee to... Vienna, Austria to avoid prosecution for all sorts of stuff related to Trump and the GOP. I'm not going to bother breaking that out because ain't no one gonna read that crap anyway. It should be noted that Rudy Giuliani was attempting to get out of Dodge and was en route to... you guessed it, Vienna, Austria.

Anywhey.

- President Trump removed Amb. Yovanovitch from her post following complaints from Giuliani and his associates. <- That would be Parnas and Firtash, by the way.

- GOP Cong. Sessions attacked Amb. Yovanovitch through conservative media outlets. Did you Sessions was being funded by Giuliani's associates Parnas and Fruman with money funneled to them by Firtash? Anyone seeing the picture, yet?

- Trump, Giuliani and his associates pressured the Ukrainian government to discredit Russian election interference. Firtash's hands are all over this, and it's presumed Russia's hands are all over him.

- Trump pressured the Ukrainian President, what's his nuts, to publicly announce a fabricated investigation into Trump's domestic political rival on CNN.

These are facts, man. You can either understand why this is important, and why Trump must be removed from office, or you can just get comfortable with the dissolution of our democracy.

- Doc

what a crock...but for you on Biden's son - "nothing to see here, democracy is aok!"

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[_moksha]

what a crock...but for you on Biden's son - "nothing to see here, democracy is aok!"

So you didn't read CamNC4Me's post.

[_Icarus]

what a crock...but for you on Biden's son - "nothing to see here, democracy is aok!"

The argument against Hunter Biden is precisely the kind of thing you would jump to defend if the tables were turned.

I mean really, what evidence is there of wrong doing? Inquiring minds really want to know. From all I've seen, the entire criticism rests on supposition and innuendo.

And if Trump was so upset about this, then he's had 3 years to investigate him. So why hasn't he? The fact is he only pressed to have Ukraine "announce" they were going to investigate once polls started coming in showing that Joe Biden would beat him in the election.

And Hunter Biden could be guilty of whatever he's being accused of but that still doesn't change the fact that Trump broke the law with this quid pro quo, which in fact virtually everyone who has testified under oath has corroborated the whistle blower's claim. The only people saying otherwise are those who refuse to testify under oath but instead run to FOX News, because that where truth dies.

What's with the hair fire subs?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

A link to my ‘Who is Lev Parnas?’ post:

viewtopic.php?p=1212371#p1212371

In more unshocking new, Devin Nunes who’s been running interference for Trump since day 1 is unsurprisingly familiar with Parnas despite pretending to not know who he was:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/politics ... index.html

When the House was considering impeachment charges against Trump last year, Nunes was among the most visible Republicans defending the President, often repeating conspiracy theories and unsubstantiated claims about Biden's dealings in Ukraine and foreign interference in the 2016 US election. CNN has reported that the US intelligence community believes that some of the theories Nunes endorsed, especially that the Ukrainian government meddled in the 2016 election, originated from Russian operatives as part of an orchestrated disinformation campaign.

Parnas and Igor Furman gave $111,000 to the Republican ‘Protect the House’ PAC. They’re going down for illegally funneling foreign monies to the GOP.

- Doc

[_Gunnar]

And Hunter Biden could be guilty of whatever he's being accused of but that still doesn't change the fact that Trump broke the law with this quid pro quo, which in fact virtually everyone who has testified under oath has corroborated the whistle blower's claim. The only people saying otherwise are those who refuse to testify under oath but instead run to FOX News, because that where truth dies.

All very important and telling points. Even if Hunter Biden were guilty of what he's being accused of, that does not diminish Trump's guilt in the slightest. The infantility of trying defend Trump by implicating wrongdoing, whether real imagined, by the son of Trump's most feared opponent cannot be over emphasized.

The fact that virtually everyone who has testified under oath has corroborated the whistle blower's claim, while the only people saying otherwise refuse to testify under oath is hugely damaging to Trump's case, whether anyone wants to admit that or not.

It is maddening that Republican Senate leaders are openly trying to rig the trial so that Trump gets acquitted, no matter what the evidence. Their audacity in hardly even trying to pretend otherwise is breathtakingly scandalous!