Impeachment hearings

The Off-Topic forum for anything non-LDS related, such as sports or politics. Rated PG through PG-13.
Post Reply
_moksha
_Emeritus
Posts: 22508
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:42 pm

Re: Impeachment hearings

Post by _moksha »

subgenius wrote:Your "hope"?.....yet my "hope"

Could you put this into a full sentence?
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
_Icarus
_Emeritus
Posts: 1541
Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:01 pm

Re: Impeachment hearings

Post by _Icarus »

Speaking of dumb prosecutors on the Right....

Image

Meanwhile FOX News hasn't been showing the live feed of the Senate Trial the past three days. Occasionally they'll show video of Schiff and company standing before the senate but there is never any audio and they're letting their talking heads at the network "explain from their perspective" what's really being said. It is as if they're scared to death to let anyone see what's actually happening.

And then last night Trish Reagan went off on a rant about how the mainstream media has the audacity to cover the trial instead of Trump's "historic" speech to a bunch of pro-lifers.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
_subgenius
_Emeritus
Posts: 13326
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:50 pm

Re: Impeachment hearings

Post by _subgenius »

moksha wrote:
subgenius wrote:Your "hope"?.....yet my "hope"

Could you put this into a full sentence?

as if "full sentence" means anything to you outside of "without parole".
But yeah, your "hope" isn't necessarily the same as my "hope". But note that you insisted on putting forth your offended sensibility immediately after I requested an example that was "apart from your delicate sensibilities".
But yeah...complete sentences are obviously useful on you.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them
what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams
If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
_subgenius
_Emeritus
Posts: 13326
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:50 pm

Re: Impeachment hearings

Post by _subgenius »

Gunnar wrote:
canpakes wrote:subs serves as this board's reminder that every declining society has its share of corrupted stooges that are willing to look the other way in the face of immorality or crime, so long as they 'get theirs'.

The same could be said of ajax18.

and of you...so congratulations.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them
what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams
If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
_Icarus
_Emeritus
Posts: 1541
Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:01 pm

Re: Impeachment hearings

Post by _Icarus »

I see that Trump's illiteracy is starting to rub off on his sycophants.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
_Some Schmo
_Emeritus
Posts: 15602
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:59 pm

Re: Impeachment hearings

Post by _Some Schmo »

Icarus wrote:I see that Trump's illiteracy is starting to rub off on his sycophants.

It never had to rub off. They were always in that slime together.

The morons have their own language. The moron code. Trump just happens to speak it really effectively.

He tried to learn Pig Latin but only got part way there... he couldn't pick up the Latin part.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
_Gunnar
_Emeritus
Posts: 6315
Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:17 am

Re: Impeachment hearings

Post by _Gunnar »

Gunnar wrote:
canpakes wrote:subs serves as this board's reminder that every declining society has its share of corrupted stooges that are willing to look the other way in the face of immorality or crime, so long as they 'get theirs'.

The same could be said of ajax18.

subgenius wrote:and of you...so congratulations.

So what immorality or crime do you think I am looking the other way from?
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
_mikwut
_Emeritus
Posts: 1605
Joined: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:20 am

Re: Impeachment hearings

Post by _mikwut »

It is pretty hard to make a case of leveraging the security assistance on a July 25th call when Ukrainians don't even know the money is being held until end of August.

mikwut
All communication relies, to a noticeable extent on evoking knowledge that we cannot tell, all our knowledge of mental processes, like feelings or conscious intellectual activities, is based on a knowledge which we cannot tell.
-Michael Polanyi

"Why are you afraid, have you still no faith?" Mark 4:40
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Re: Impeachment hearings

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

mikwut wrote:It is pretty hard to make a case of leveraging the security assistance on a July 25th call when Ukrainians don't even know the money is being held until end of August.

mikwut


Ok. You got a new angle. After all the discussions that have taken place here, detailing persons and timelines, why don’t you make the case to exonerate the President?

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
_EAllusion
_Emeritus
Posts: 18519
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:39 pm

Re: Impeachment hearings

Post by _EAllusion »

mikwut wrote:It is pretty hard to make a case of leveraging the security assistance on a July 25th call when Ukrainians don't even know the money is being held until end of August.

mikwut
On the factual side of this argument:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/03/worl ... y-aid.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... pected-do/

On the reasoning, we know that after the call the Trump admin immediately - as in within hours - moved to make sure the aid was frozen and also went out of its way to conceal information regarding this perfectly legal and normal behavior. It doesn't follow at all that this behavior, after referring to it happening, could not then be leveraged based on reference to that threat.

On the implications of your reasoning, I wonder why you think Ukraine buckled and was set to make an announcement through CNN to an American audience that Trump wanted. If there was no pressure, that's strange.
Post Reply