Systemic Racism: Fact or Myth?

[_EAllusion]

One of the things Wallace campaigned on in 68 was that civil rights protesters were just dangerous anarchists and if anyone of them is blocking traffic, people should be allowed to run them over. Good thing our politics left that mentality dead and buried forever, right? I'm sure if someone were to run on that idea in the present, they'd probably be a Democrat because that's definitely the position we associate with modern Democrats.

[_Some Schmo]

You have to understand what racism means to the Democrats who use this cudgel.

Translation: "BULLSH-IT ALERT! What follows is pure nonsense. You have been warned."

You have to understand... he says. LOL. Like ajax understands anything.

[_DoubtingThomas]

good luck getting anything but symbolism.

Can you repeat that.

[_ajax18]

But he helpfully is a walking example that even hardcore racists tend to bristle at being called racists and reject the label.

I admit that listening to you often led me to embrace racism as a certain recoil to your inane narrative, grievances, accusations, and arguments. I had to step back and remember what an immoral genius you were and not alliow your abuse to define who I wanted to be nor the fact that a good society can exist between me and my black and brown neighbors. Thankfully few of them accept your view of history or me.

If you're going to throw the word around, let's be clear on what you mean by it. Some people still think it just means discrimination based on race. What it now means is failure to offer sufficient reparations and special favors based on race. A color blind society is not good enough for you anymore. You've went way to far. But it's not really about people of color. Their rage is just a fire you stoke ultimately to satisfy your lust for power.

[_subgenius]

George Wallace made a serious effort to join Goldwater as the VP on a 1964 unity ticket. He was rejected. Why did Wallace do that? He, famously, ran as a segregationist independent candidate in 1968 helping to split the Democratic vote. Why? Richard Nixon and later Ronald Reagan routinely borrowed Wallacisms for their own campaigns. Why would they do that? Wallace's areas of electoral strength in the 60's are now the most firm strongholds of Republican support in the entire country. Why?

Why?
hmm...maybe ask Carter or Mondale, they seem to know the guy pretty well.

[_EAllusion]

I admit that listening to you often led me to embrace racism as a certain recoil to your inane narrative, grievances, accusations, and arguments.

Oh sure. You were a Stormfront poster for 10 years, showed up on this board with a Stonewall Jackson avatar and racist ideas, because you didn't like my posts. That's a sane and normal thing people do.

There is a popular argument on the alt-right that critics of them are what make them turn to things their critics describe as racism. "I got so mad at SJW's, that I just had to become a Nazi." Sure buddy. That's a thing people do. You wouldn't just be repeating that very recent trend here, would you?

I had to step back and remember what an immoral genius you were and not alliow your abuse to define who I wanted to be nor the fact that a good society can exist between me and my black and brown neighbors. Thankfully few of them accept your view of history or me.

You currently post under two alternative aliases as black people mocking them with racist stereotypes.

[_EAllusion]

George Wallace made a serious effort to join Goldwater as the VP on a 1964 unity ticket. He was rejected. Why did Wallace do that? He, famously, ran as a segregationist independent candidate in 1968 helping to split the Democratic vote. Why? Richard Nixon and later Ronald Reagan routinely borrowed Wallacisms for their own campaigns. Why would they do that? Wallace's areas of electoral strength in the 60's are now the most firm strongholds of Republican support in the entire country. Why?

Why?
hmm...maybe ask Carter or Mondale, they seem to know the guy pretty well.

Yeah. That's what I thought.

[_EAllusion]

EA once said that discriminatory outcomes in drug convictions reflect racial biases in the criminal justice system. Anyway, that's why I decided that genocide of the Roma people was a good thing.

[Guest]

But he helpfully is a walking example that even hardcore racists tend to bristle at being called racists and reject the label.

I admit that listening to you often led me to embrace racism as a certain recoil to your inane narrative, grievances, accusations, and arguments. I had to step back and remember what an immoral genius you were and not alliow your abuse to define who I wanted to be nor the fact that a good society can exist between me and my black and brown neighbors. Thankfully few of them accept your view of history or me.

Nothing is clearer to me, based on your posting history, that there is nothing you are less interested in than establishing a "good society" between you and your black and brown neighbors -- unless what you mean by a "good society" is a segregated one, in which whites are necessarily dominant and are under no obligation to interact with or treat black and brown neighbors as trusted, and even beloved, friends and equals.

If you're going to throw the word around, let's be clear on what you mean by it. Some people still think it just means discrimination based on race. What it now means is failure to offer sufficient reparations and special favors based on race. A color blind society is not good enough for you anymore. You've went [sic] way to far. But it's not really about people of color. Their rage is just a fire you stoke ultimately to satisfy your lust for power.

It is only your lust for power that seems to be operative here. You can't bear the thought of a society in which whites are no longer the majority nor automatically given preference and authority over non-whites. Nor can you bear the thought of a truly color blind society in which color or race has no bearing on one's station in life, or what one is entitled to, or whom one chooses to love.

What happened to you to cause you to become so hateful and intolerant of others who are not just like you and don't share your prejudices?

[_Jersey Girl]

Some people still think it just means discrimination based on race. What it now means is failure to offer sufficient reparations and special favors based on race. A color blind society is not good enough for you anymore. You've went way to far. But it's not really about people of color. Their rage is just a fire you stoke ultimately to satisfy your lust for power.

What is your position on reparations and what is the reason for your position?