Funny. I can't seem to find that quote on Google. I don't say that you are making this up, but you appear to be the only person who remembers the words in that form.
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That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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I'll say it. He's making it up. If it were a legit quotation it would easily be found on Google. The fact that he admits he relied on FOX just increased the chances if it being bogus by a factor of 10.
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Maybe if it was one of those artificial reality Obamas on camera with a perfect voice match.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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I'm sure you remember hearing this striking statement by Obama. The problem is that nobody else shows any sign of having done so.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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If you heard the "snippet" on FOX as you say, then there is at least a 4000% chance of it being edited or taken out of context. Your anecdote is meaningless. Just something we'd expect a racist to emblazen on his brain whether its true or not.
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For any curious, here is Obama's complete (actual) statement. It was taken from a panel put on by the Marshall Project (emphasis mine). Naturally, the full conversation probably doesn't have the same snarl to it.
Transcript link: White House Panel on Criminal Justice ReformThere is a specific concern as to whether African Americans are sometimes not treated in
particular jurisdictions fairly or subject to excessive force more frequently. I think it’s important for those
who are concerned about that to back it up with data, not anecdote; to not paint with a broad brush; to
understand the overwhelming majority of law enforcement is doing the right thing and wants to do the right
thing; to recognize that police officers have a really tough job and we’re sending them into really tough
neighborhoods that sometimes are really dangerous, and they’ve got to make split-second decisions. And
so we shouldn’t be too sanctimonious about situations that sometimes can be ambiguous.
But having said all that, we as a society, particularly given our history, have to take this
seriously. And one of the ways of avoiding the politics of this and losing the moment is everybody just
stepping back for a second and understanding that the African American community is not just making this
up, and it’s not just something being politicized; it’s real and there’s a history behind it. And we have to
take it seriously. And it’s incumbent then on the activist to also take seriously the tough job that police
have. And that’s one of the things that the post-Ferguson task force did. We had activists who were
marching in Ferguson with police chiefs and law enforcement, sitting down and figuring this stuff out.
And just assuming good faith in other people -- going to the issue of people being cynical -- I
think is important. I’ve rarely gotten much accomplished assuming the worst in other people. Usually it
works better if I assume the best. So I just wanted to make that point.
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Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
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Pure horse crap. These remarks weren't "during" or right after Ferguson, they were given 14 months later.ajax18 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:43 am
Obama said this during after the Ferguson riots which were ultimately based on inaccurate and biased BLM eye witness testimony.
But it applied well to the Jesse Smollet case once we proved that making this stuff up was exactly what some BLM activists like Smollet were doing.
So now we have ajax lying to cover up his lies while admitting he relied on an outlet that makes lying central to its business model.
This is the same guy bemoaning CNN because an employee tried to advise his brother on a legal matter.
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I’m pretty sure that if Obama had actually uttered that sentence, there’d be a Google trail a mile long of conservative websites that would emblazon it in the boldest font, while having a meltdown about how racist a comment it was.
But, oddly, this supposed quote cannot be found anywhere.
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Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:36 pmFor any curious, here is Obama's complete (actual) statement. It was taken from a panel put on by the Marshall Project (emphasis mine). Naturally, the full conversation probably doesn't have the same snarl to it.
Transcript link: White House Panel on Criminal Justice ReformThere is a specific concern as to whether African Americans are sometimes not treated in
particular jurisdictions fairly or subject to excessive force more frequently. I think it’s important for those
who are concerned about that to back it up with data, not anecdote; to not paint with a broad brush; to
understand the overwhelming majority of law enforcement is doing the right thing and wants to do the right
thing; to recognize that police officers have a really tough job and we’re sending them into really tough
neighborhoods that sometimes are really dangerous, and they’ve got to make split-second decisions. And
so we shouldn’t be too sanctimonious about situations that sometimes can be ambiguous.
But having said all that, we as a society, particularly given our history, have to take this
seriously. And one of the ways of avoiding the politics of this and losing the moment is everybody just
stepping back for a second and understanding that the African American community is not just making this
up, and it’s not just something being politicized; it’s real and there’s a history behind it. And we have to
take it seriously. And it’s incumbent then on the activist to also take seriously the tough job that police
have. And that’s one of the things that the post-Ferguson task force did. We had activists who were
marching in Ferguson with police chiefs and law enforcement, sitting down and figuring this stuff out.
And just assuming good faith in other people -- going to the issue of people being cynical -- I
think is important. I’ve rarely gotten much accomplished assuming the worst in other people. Usually it
works better if I assume the best. So I just wanted to make that point.
My own opinion, of course, but it seems difficult to see these remarks from Obama as being negative, dismissive or disrespectful towards anyone in this conversation, let alone any police department or it’s members.