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I always hate when I go to Subway and they're out of chocolate chip and macadamia nut cookies at the same time. That guy should be pissed!!! The workers there are lucky they didn't get shot!
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Please tell me why this is necessary in Marion, IA
It probably isn't necessary. Then again, neither are Big Macs and Toyota Corollas.

Living in a free country means that you'll encounter fellow-citizens from time-to-time who do things that aren't necessary.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:35 am
Please tell me why this is necessary in Marion, IA
It probably isn't necessary. Then again, neither are Big Macs and Toyota Corollas.

Living in a free country means that you'll encounter fellow-citizens from time-to-time who do things that aren't necessary.
Well. So are murder and baby pageants. Thanks for the hot take.

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Binger wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:32 am
I saw a gun that costs 50k this week. Nobody needs a 50k gun for self defense, there oughta be a law!
Yes, to stop people like Paddock.
Binger wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:32 am

Huh? What?
You asked me "How are you"
And I replied: I am very good. How are you and atlanticmike doing? Are you guys happy?
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:39 am
Binger wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:29 am

Are you genuinely interested in how I am doing? Or, are you just trying to be a needling pest?
Come on! Let's just have a conversation.

You said,
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Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:29 am
I saw a gun that looked like legos. We need a law against that.
Are you trying to be pain in the butt?
For sure. Out of the blue, you suggested that I agreed that we need stricter gun control laws. To point out the absurdity of you making that generalized conclusion based on a question about whether I needed large capacity magazines for self defense, I imagined a law that seemed strict.

Let's just talk then.

I have a few machines for throwing clay pigeons. They run off of car batteries. We set them up on an old spool from the utility company. The kids come over and we should hundreds of clay pigeons. For as long as I can remember, I would go to Bass Pro, Sportsman's, Cabellas or Walmart and buy 500-1000 shells at a time and at least that many clay pigeons. We could shoot all weekend.

Where I live now, I have to have a background check to buy shotgun shells. This is a stricter law, and it is absolutely insane. I am not in favor of having to register ammo and have these checks to buy shotgun shells. It is not a law that is making anything safer, it is just a nuisance. I am fine with stricter laws that make sense. Mostly what I see, are stricter laws that make people busy and make no sense.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:14 am
Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:35 am
It probably isn't necessary. Then again, neither are Big Macs and Toyota Corollas.

Living in a free country means that you'll encounter fellow-citizens from time-to-time who do things that aren't necessary.
Well. So are murder and baby pageants. Thanks for the hot take.

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In that case, was the point of your meme to suggest that unnecessary things should be illegal? ‘Cause that’s what it seemed like. If I’m wrong, please tell us the point of sharing that particular meme.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:17 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:14 am

Well. So are murder and baby pageants. Thanks for the hot take.

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In that case, was the point of your meme to suggest that unnecessary things should be illegal? ‘Cause that’s what it seemed like. If I’m wrong, please tell us the point of sharing that particular meme.
What was your purpose of introducing Toyotas and Big Macs, buddy?

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This video is not a joke.

This is Colion Noir going to Utah.

https://youtu.be/gZTp6FbAO9I

Colion is a hell of a guy. He is a lawyer. He is passionate about guns, gun laws, self defense and common sense. He is fascinating. Check him out.

My favorite line in the video - "I made him my friend."
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Atlanticmike wrote:
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None of your examples involve someone defending their lives from an armed intruder. Most burglars aren't trying to kill, only to steal, and usually for drugs. And the opioid epidemic plays a huge part in that, for which Republicans have no answer or even pretend to. The teenage boy in your first youtube clip shot at an unarmed man who was leaving his house with a fricken clothes hamper! The man could've been mentally ill for all we know, and there was no need to try killing him as he was leaving. The only thing that boy "defended" was his dirty clothes. The girl in the second video shot at an unarmed intruder as he was leaving the house. But even if you do provide examples of an armed intruder with the intent of raping or killing whoever was in the house, these examples pale in comparison. They are buried under the mountain of death counts of those who fell victim to accidents and suicides. That's something you won't even pretend to address because you can't.
So if I'm understanding you correctly, a 120lbs woman can't shoot a 230lbs intruder unless he's armed? Is that the knew Progressive rule women are going to have to follow? Someone breaking and entering into your house and you being in fear for your life isn't enough anymore?
No, you're not understanding anything correctly. And your misunderstandings become more apparent with every repeated rant. I'm making the point that your examples aren't very good examples to prove why shooting criminals is necessary. In both scenarios they were leaving the scene without harming anyone, so why shoot them in the back unless you're just a sick human being who loves the thrill of the kill?

Now, I'm told repeatedly by gun fanatics that guns are needed for safety. For protection from bad people with guns who threaten their lives. And yet I don't know of anyone, or anyone else who does know anyone, who has ever had such an experience. You see this played out in Hollywood films and you can google some examples from local news outlets, but those examples happen very rarely, and usually in low income neighborhoods. For middle-upper class living, there is absolutely zero need to have guns in the home. If home raiders are dumb enough to approach our home with the obvious surveillance system pointing in every direction, and if they're not concerned about our two yapping dogs that bark at anything that moves within 100 ft of our house, then breaking down our door would be a miracle in itself as it is a pretty thick French door bolted to the base and top of the framing. Assuming they get past the foyer before our dogs tear them a part, the cops would already be on the scene.

The point is there are just too many guns in this country and they eventually end up in the hands of criminals. Why is this so hard to admit? Criminals typically don't go buy their guns from stores that will register them. They either buy them on the black market or they get them from careless owners. This is only possible because there are more guns than people in this country.
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Atlanticmike wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:11 am
Hey Kevin, sugary drinks kill 185,000 people a year and 25,000 of those are Americans. Why are you so determined to deny us Americans of our god-given right to bear arms?
First of all, you don't have a god given right to anything of the sort. That's just something sick killers like to say to justify their moral depravity.

Secondly, no one is saying guns should be banned. The fact that you keep repeating this nonsense, despite constant correction, just demonstrates your inability to comprehend and unwillingness to have an intelligent discussion.
Why not go after sugary drinks, swimming pools, harsh cleaners that poison children, bathtubs, if your upset with people losing their lives? Is a sugary drink death less important to a mother than a death caused by a gun?
The only thing obvious, aside from your persistent use of straw man arguments, is that you are the ones who don't care about saving lives. You're literally making up statistics that aren't true to drive home the point that its apparently OK for there to be tens of thousands of needless violent gun related deaths every year, because you think just as many people die from "sugary drinks." Maybe if you'd consider the hundreds of children accidentally killed by guns every year were actually unfertilized eggs in someone's uterus, you'd then have a different take on the value of their lives.
In America, 50 children are killed or seriously injured every week when their parents backing up the car in a driveway. Should we start making people install back up cameras on their car if they want to drive a vehicle?
Uh, yes actually. They're usually standard on new cars today anyway. And cars aren't designed to kill, they're for transportation. Guns are nothing more than a killing device.
Why is it always guns with liberals?
It isn't. But why is it everything BUT guns with Conservatives?
My guess would be because they don't love America, they despise freedom. Freedom of speech and the right to bear arms are the first and second amendments for a reason. It drives liberals absolutely crazy!!
No it doesn't. What drives us crazy are the [personal attack deleted] roaming the countryside armed to the teeth and deluded by this false belief that God has granted you that right.
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