RUSSIA: We have Many Tanks!! CHINA: We Also Have Many Tanks !! AMERICA: We Identity As A Tank!!!!!

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K Graham wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:49 pm
Atlanticmike wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:45 pm
You didn’t answer the question! If every able bodied Ukrainian citizen was armed to the teeth over a year ago, would that of stopped Putin from invading?? Because right now as we speak, the Ukrainians are handing out weapons to anyone who’s willing to fight. Let’s say half of the Ukrainian citizens were armed, 20 million, would that of stopped Putin?
Of course it wouldn't have stopped him from invading. Did having every Afghan armed to the teeth stop their invasion of Afghanistan?

You actually think Putin cares how many of his own troops are lost in battle? Handing out AKs to people up against the full force of a world class military is like bringing a slingshot to a gunfight.
Did Russia win in Afghanistan?

DID WE WIN IN AFGHANISTAN ?!?!
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K Graham wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:56 pm
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Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:51 pm
That is exactly what you said.

No invasion while Trump was there. Ready Set Go when Biden is there. Maybe Biden should president better?
I think we've found the problem with you. You're not a troll at all. You're just unbelievably stupid. Did you even finish grade school? HFS you actually think you're on solid ground with your comprehension here?

I said Putin started his preparation for the Ukraine invasion after Trump got elected. I never once said Trump "stopped" Putin from doing anything. Putin interfered in our elections to help Trump get elected. The point? Putin's plan was set in motion with Trump in office and he would have carried it out no matter who won the 2020 election.
And then....... Biden got elected, and while he was taking a nap, Putin attacked Ukraine. That is what you said. And you said that Putin did not pull this crap while Trump was in Office, he just bought some new trucks and moved them around a bit, right?

Didn't the NY Post and other rags report that Trump told Putin if he attacked Ukraine that Trump would “F” up Moscow? Or even the Kremlin?

Didn't the Post and others report that Trump said that to his face?

Doesn't matter. Your point is solid. Trump Presidency: no attacks on Ukraine. Biden Presidency: Poor Ukraine.
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The problem with the GOP today is that is is extremely low IQ in their ranks, and in their base.

Let me break it down for you.

When dealing with a country that has a nuclear weapon, let alone 14,000 of them, military intervention is OFF THE TABLE.

The only option is to hit them with sanctions which is what Biden is doing. He is quite literally doing EVERYTHING a responsible leader can do.

This BS about "perceived weakness" is just empty rhetoric, as any grown adult with a functioning brain knows there is nothing "intimidating" about Trump and there is NOTHING Trump could have done militarily to "stop Putin."
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K Graham wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:03 pm
Binger wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:01 pm

And then....... Biden got elected, and while he was taking a nap, Putin attacked Ukraine. That is what you said. And you said that Putin did not pull this crap while Trump was in Office, he just bought some new trucks and moved them around a bit, right?

Didn't the NY Post and other rags report that Trump told Putin if he attacked Ukraine that Trump would “F” up Moscow? Or even the Kremlin?

Didn't the Post and others report that Trump said that to his face?

Doesn't matter. Your point is solid. Trump Presidency: no attacks on Ukraine. Biden Presidency: Poor Ukraine.
I just realized you're way too stupid to even talk to. No wonder you've alienated just about everyone on this forum.
So, was the NY Post wrong?
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K Graham wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:02 pm
The problem with the GOP today is that is is extremely low IQ in their ranks, and in their base.

Let me break it down for you.

When dealing with a country that has a nuclear weapon, let alone 14,000 of them, military intervention is OFF THE TABLE.

The only option is to hit them with sanctions which is what Biden is doing. He is quite literally doing EVERYTHING a responsible leader can do.

This BS about "perceived weakness" is just empty rhetoric, as any grown adult with a functioning brain knows there is nothing "intimidating" about Trump and there is NOTHING Trump could have done militarily to "stop Putin."
But, Trump stopped it, and Biden didn't.

You seem to only be able to reconcile that with assumptions and accusations.
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Trump saved himself from financial ruin by borrowing money from the Russian mafia, stiffed them, had a contract on him, and ultimately, it looks like he found a way to pay back his business partners in terms of being Putin's inside man on this side of the world. Trump wouldn't do crap to stop Putin, he'd just step aside and say, "Make America great! Let them handle their own business, we're worrying about Americans now!"

Trump would let Putin grow his power through conquest and assume Putin is his friend and ally, until Putin is strong enough to challenge us. It looks like the right-wingers out there are doing a good job rigging elections and a chance you'll get your chance to see Trump come back for 4 years to do nothing. There is little incentive, because Russia won't be a threat to America (in conventional terms) until he's dead, nor will Russia be a threat to the aging boomers who will also be gone by the time Russia can threaten us. If they can breathe easy knowing Putin is our temporary ally until they are dead, they are happy to throw their grandkids to the wolves.

I'd really like to see what A-Mike thinks can and should be done with both Russia and China today or tomorrow, considering he appears to know less then even Ajax. All he know is that Trump would is the answer. But what is Trump's answer? No, Trump is the answer. It doesn't have to make any logical sense you just have to believe Trump is your lord and savior.
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Gad, consider editing the part of your rant that includes a dead former President.
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K Graham wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:02 pm
The problem with the GOP today is that is is extremely low IQ in their ranks, and in their base.

Let me break it down for you.

When dealing with a country that has a nuclear weapon, let alone 14,000 of them, military intervention is OFF THE TABLE.

The only option is to hit them with sanctions which is what Biden is doing. He is quite literally doing EVERYTHING a responsible leader can do.

This B.S. about "perceived weakness" is just empty rhetoric, as any grown adult with a functioning brain knows there is nothing "intimidating" about Trump and there is NOTHING Trump could have done militarily to "stop Putin."
Indeed. No US President has the capacity to scare somebody like Putin by simply going on TV and ranting under circumstances like the present. There no credible threat that can be made, apart from the sanctions that Biden is joining other western leaders in putting in place.

Putin knows very well that so long as he does not attack a country that is a member of NATO, no western country is going to take the risk of attacking Russia, which is a nuclear armed power. And if Putin does attack a NATO member country, a US President is bound by the following article of the North Atlantic Treaty:
Article 5

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
The only time when that article has been triggered was when the US was attacked on 9/11, and other member countries came to the aid of the US, as they were bound to do - which is why the UK sent troops to Afghanistan when the US went in.

So the situation of a US president does not leave them much choice:

1. If a non-NATO country is attacked by Russia, which is a nuclear power, no rational president could choose to begin military action.
2. If a NATO country is attacked, the President has no choice about acting to assist them militarily. He has to.
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Gadianton wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:25 pm
Trump saved himself from financial ruin by borrowing money from the Russian mafia, stiffed them, had a contract on him, and ultimately, it looks like he found a way to pay back his business partners in terms of being Putin's inside man on this side of the world. Trump wouldn't do crap to stop Putin, he'd just step aside and say, "Make America great! Let them handle their own business, we're worrying about Americans now!"

Trump would let Putin grow his power through conquest and assume Putin is his friend and ally, until Putin is strong enough to challenge us. It looks like the right-wingers out there are doing a good job rigging elections and a chance you'll get your chance to see Trump come back for 4 years to do nothing. There is little incentive, because Russia won't be a threat to America (in conventional terms) until he's dead, nor will Russia be a threat to the aging boomers who will also be gone by the time Russia can threaten us. If they can breathe easy knowing Putin is our temporary ally until they are dead, they are happy to throw their grandkids to the wolves.

I'd really like to see what A-Mike thinks can and should be done with both Russia and China today or tomorrow, considering he appears to know less then even Ajax. All he know is that Trump would is the answer. But what is Trump's answer? No, Trump is the answer. It doesn't have to make any logical sense you just have to believe Trump is your lord and savior.
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You don’t think Russia and China see how our younger generations are a bunch of [deleted, FR 1, RI] sissies? We have created citizens that get stressed out over pronouns!! We’ve created citizens that are so stupid, they think saying colored people is racist, but saying people of color is perfectly fine. Wokeism has infected our most important institutions to the point that now the American medical Association is telling Doctors to replace the word minority with “historically marginalized “. Replace the word equality with “equity”. Basically I’m saying we’re [deleted, FR 1, RI! It’s goin to take a long time to cure America of this disease known as progressivism and we’re going to suffer while doing it! The best we can hope for is our adversaries Russia and China don’t take full advantage of us while we’re suffering with the progressive disease.

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Gadianton wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:25 pm
I'd really like to see what A-Mike thinks can and should be done with both Russia and China today or tomorrow, considering he appears to know less then even Ajax. All he know is that Trump would is the answer.
I love this.

Gad, please, take a minute to edit your post so the moderators do not have to hold a convention and dedicate so many hours to your violation/BS/recklessness. (I was going to write "wrecklessness" but I was worried that you guys would make fun of my homophonicism again)

Let's break this down.

Gad insults A-Mike, then insults ajax who is not part of the discussion. (aggression, trolling, etc.) He makes the insult one of intelligence or something, alluding that one knows even less than the other.

Then Gaddy unleashes the real zinger.
Gadianton wrote:
Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:25 pm
All he know is that Trump would is the answer.
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The moderators are cordially invited to ban the trolls and the aggressors!!!!!!
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