Just, For the Love of God, Don't All of You Become Yankees Fans.

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Re: Just, For the Love of God, Don't All of You Become Yankees Fans.

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As a good faith gesture, I'll answer.
Atlanticmike wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:33 pm
So let’s say a white guy proudly wears one of these hats because of his love for the team he supports, is he a racist?
I have no idea. Not enough information.
Atlanticmike wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:33 pm
Let’s say a white guy won’t wear one of these hats because he doesn’t like the fact his favorite team is represented by a man with dark skin, is he a racist?
I don't know. Again, not enough information. Racism is a charge that shouldn't be made lightly.
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Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:33 pm

Let’s say a Native American wears one of these hats because he appreciates the fact a bunch of white people think his people were such mighty warriors, they’re willing to have their favorite team represented by a Native American. Is he wrong? Is he a sellout to his own people because he doesn’t follow woke ideology?
If this is the whole story, then of course not.

Now it's your turn to answer:

Let’s say a Native American wants to get rid of the Cleveland Indians logo. Is she wrong? Is she a sellout to her own people because she doesn’t follow conservative version of a woke ideology? Is she the racist you seem to be saying that she is?
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This is going a direction I did not expect.

What in the hell is a conservative version of a woke ideology?
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Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:58 pm
This is going a direction I did not expect.

What in the hell is a conservative version of a woke ideology?
Let's say the woke version is, "Everything is about race. We must talk about race and racism."

What I'm calling the conservative version of woke would be, "Nothing is about race. It's racist to even talk about race."
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Morley wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:21 pm
Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 4:58 pm
This is going a direction I did not expect.

What in the hell is a conservative version of a woke ideology?
Let's say the woke version is, "Everything is about race. We must talk about race and racism."

What I'm calling the conservative version of woke would be, "Nothing is about race. It's racist to even talk about race."
Well ain't that something.
This reminds me of McConkie's whore of all the earth interpretations. It says if what we believe is good, then everything and everyone who does not believe is a whore and we will call it something, like, a "whore" and y'all know what whores do, they whore like whores. Good thing we are not the whore.
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Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:15 pm
Morley wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:21 pm


Let's say the woke version is, "Everything is about race. We must talk about race and racism."

What I'm calling the conservative version of woke would be, "Nothing is about race. It's racist to even talk about race."
Well ain't that something.
This reminds me of McConkie's whore of all the earth interpretations. It says if what we believe is good, then everything and everyone who does not believe is a whore and we will call it something, like, a "whore" and y'all know what whores do, they whore like whores. Good thing we are not the whore.
My apologies, friend. I have no idea what you're saying here.
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Morley wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:59 pm
Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:15 pm


Well ain't that something.
This reminds me of McConkie's whore of all the earth interpretations. It says if what we believe is good, then everything and everyone who does not believe is a whore and we will call it something, like, a "whore" and y'all know what whores do, they whore like whores. Good thing we are not the whore.
My apologies, friend. I have no idea what you're saying here.
My point, calling something we do not like a bad name, just means we do not like it. Saying that a group all believes or does something you do not like, just means you do not like them or the thing.

When McConkie ran with the whore of all the earth nonsense, it did not mean that the Catholic church or the Tanners were whores. It meant he did not like them, so he called them whores.

Saying conservatives do not talk about race or that they all believe in Q, for example, just means you do not like conservatives and you have invested about the same intellectual effort as a fake apostle calling a church a whore.
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Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:12 pm
Saying conservatives do not talk about race or that they all believe in Q, for example, just means you do not like conservatives and you have invested about the same intellectual effort as a fake apostle calling a church a whore.
An example follows:
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Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:57 pm
The new WOKE generation is racist as xxck!! They’re removing anything and everything from sports that has to do with native Americans.
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:49 pm
Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:12 pm
Saying conservatives do not talk about race or that they all believe in Q, for example, just means you do not like conservatives and you have invested about the same intellectual effort as a fake apostle calling a church a whore.
An example follows:
Atlanticmike wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:57 pm
The new WOKE generation is racist as xxck!! They’re removing anything and everything from sports that has to do with native Americans.
LMAO.
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Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:16 pm
LMAO.
Indeed. ; )
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Binger wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:12 pm
Morley wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:59 pm


My apologies, friend. I have no idea what you're saying here.
My point, calling something we do not like a bad name, just means we do not like it. Saying that a group all believes or does something you do not like, just means you do not like them or the thing.

When McConkie ran with the whore of all the earth nonsense, it did not mean that the Catholic church or the Tanners were whores. It meant he did not like them, so he called them whores.

Saying conservatives do not talk about race or that they all believe in Q, for example, just means you do not like conservatives and you have invested about the same intellectual effort as a fake apostle calling a church a whore.
Are you kidding?! Stop reading shite that is not there into what I'm saying. What the hell is this about Q?

I'm not saying that conservatives never want to talk about race. Neither am I saying that liberals aways want to talk about race. I said there is an equivalent version of the liberal 'being woke' that exists on the conservative side of the spectrum.

All liberals are not woke. All conservatives are not the conservative equivalent of woke. But some are.

When Atlantic Mike says that "The new WOKE generation is racist as xxck!! They’re removing anything and everything from sports that has to do with native Americans," he's essentially engaging in the conservative equivalent of being 'woke.' He's categorizing without thinking. Please go back and read the exchange.

I don't think that it's racist every time a Native American logo is replaced with something else. Mike apparently does, though I've asked him to clarify.

What about it? Do you think it was racist to swap out the Cleveland Indians logo? Is a tribe being racist every time they ask to have their name or ethnicity removed from a high school team's logo?
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