NBC news story on Hunter Biden

[honorentheos]

...it is probably mixed in with one of your ad hom rants like above, which I obviously ignore…but I will look for it.

Let's add ad hominem to concepts you don't understand.

Love ya

Oh? (Refers back to nipple ring discussion)

[Markk]

Where did he say “there is nothing in the e-mails” Kevin?

That's not what I said he said. Why do you constantly do this? Do you really think everyone else here is too stupid to know when you're lying about something that is easily verified a few posts above?

I said, and I quote, "nothing in any of the emails to implicate the President in anything illegal." You've had nearly two years to sift through the emails, and all you do is produce snippets without context in order to lie and deceive about what they really mean. Dershowitz's remarks undermines all the idiotic hysteria that has been created by people like you and those who manufacture fake scandals just to detract from their own political drama.

This is like your delusional insistence that I "lied" about a solar farm providing all of Europe with electricity right now when in reality you just can't comprehend basic English and you have an affinity for missing the point. The point being is that we have the means to provide all our energy needs with renewables, it is only a question of political will. Democrats have it, but Republicans fight tooth and nail against progress.

Kevin he was discussing the big guy e-mail, that is one e-mail….you wrote “any” of the e-mails. That is not what AD said at all. Look at about the 3 minute time in the video and he states clearly to slow down and let the investigation take it’s coarse.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/hunt ... d/1065025/

As far as the African Solar farm… this is a paste of what you wrote…

“ Kevin wrote…A similar project is in the works to use the North African desert's sunlight to power all of Europe.”

That is not true and it is a flat out lie. In fact there are around 8 nuke plants being either built or in the works in Europe…the solar plant in NA can supplement parts of the mediterranean at best. Germany will need about 20 new gas plants as they exit nukes and coal


https://www.nesfircroft.com/blog/2019/0 ... google.com

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/ge ... ty-rwe-ceo



I understand you are passionate about your ideology, but doubling down and stuff that is clearly not so…is not helping your “cause.” If you can show me a plan where such a project is in the works to power ALL of Europe…link it and then we can ask why they are still building nuke plants , and saying that Nuke plants and gas plants are Green energy.

[Markk]

...it is probably mixed in with one of your ad hom rants like above, which I obviously ignore…but I will look for it.

Let's add ad hominem to concepts you don't understand.

Love ya

Oh? (Refers back to nipple ring discussion)

LOL…okay

I went back and looked and could not find what you said about ES. But I did find a article on line that reads that it appears he had some sort of access to Joes money in shared account with Hunter. But nothing concrete how that works. I think the current investigation in Delaware is going through that.

I am still looking.

[canpakes]

Yes Happy Easter! Thanks, spent the Morning hiding eggs. Hope you have a great Easter.

Hey, did that too. : ) We hid the first batch around 3 AM for our own kids and then we helped friends hide more eggs for theirs later in the day. I think we ended up moving around 150 eggs when it was all over with.

I answered your question about the phone bill, the point is that Hunter may have been paying Joes bills and the issue is why and where is the money connected too.

Let’s stop for a moment and look a little closer at this, and the story that you linked to at the Daily Mail that mentions it.

I think that this ‘cellphone bill’ item is a perfect example of one of the problems of your approach. It appears that this anecdote is just something that you’ve picked up without being anything more than hearsay, and you’ve concluded - without any sort of context or evidence - that this somehow implicates JB for something illegal. And yet -

- No information on who’s account this definitively is has been given,

- No information on who was actually using the line (regardless of the listed ‘owner’) has been identified,

- No data on who actually paid this bill has been shown, and -

- No record of the payment - with information on the account or source - has been provided.

Nor has any explanation as to how this item implicates JB into anything illegal been provided.

You’ve been hopping around like a mad rabbit on this topic for years. Please, do me this favor - show me that you are actually serious about any of this, using this ‘cellphone bill’ as an example. Please dig into whatever ‘deep throat’ sources that you believe in and bring back something … anything … that sheds light on this anecdote, along the lines of my points immediately above.

This, at least, should be a simple enough task to start with.

If you can’t do that, with all of the sources that you’ve been following that are all so very sure of the graft and corruption by Ol’ Joe, then maybe that should tell you something about who or what sources you are trusting.

[Markk]

Yes Happy Easter! Thanks, spent the Morning hiding eggs. Hope you have a great Easter.

Hey, did that too. : ) We hid the first batch around 3 AM for our own kids and then we helped friends hide more eggs for theirs later in the day. I think we ended up moving around 150 eggs when it was all over with.

I answered your question about the phone bill, the point is that Hunter may have been paying Joes bills and the issue is why and where is the money connected too.

Let’s stop for a moment and look a little closer at this, and the story that you linked to at the Daily Mail that mentions it.

I think that this ‘cellphone bill’ item is a perfect example of one of the problems of your approach. It appears that this anecdote is just something that you’ve picked up without being anything more than hearsay, and you’ve concluded - without any sort of context or evidence - that this somehow implicates JB for something illegal. And yet -

- No information on who’s account this definitively is has been given,

- No information on who was actually using the line (regardless of the listed ‘owner’) has been identified,

- No data on who actually paid this bill has been shown, and -

- No record of the payment - with information on the account or source - has been provided.

Nor has any explanation as to how this item implicates JB into anything illegal been provided.

You’ve been hopping around like a mad rabbit on this topic for years. Please, do me this favor - show me that you are actually serious about any of this, using this ‘cellphone bill’ as an example. Please dig into whatever ‘deep throat’ sources that you believe in and bring back something … anything … that sheds light on this anecdote, along the lines of my points immediately above.

This, at least, should be a simple enough task to start with.

If you can’t do that, with all of the sources that you’ve been following that are all so very sure of the graft and corruption by Ol’ Joe, then maybe that should tell you something about who or what sources you are trusting.

No I haven't, I have been consistent, the point is that rosemont who is founded by lobbyists, and later tied to Burisma, a founding member in prison for conspiracy and fraud…and also has links to Joe Biden. This is just a small part of a bigger picture. If you think that all this boils down to a cell phone bill you aren’t paying attention.

[canpakes]

If you think that all this boils down to a cell phone bill you aren’t paying attention.

I don’t think that ‘all this boils down to a cell phone bill’, but you’ve presented the cellphone anecdote as emblematic of something. That something appears to be - absent any actual evidence from you - legal business proceedings.

That is exactly the point. You weren’t paying attention.
; )

[honorentheos]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... bills.html

What do all these texts and e-mails mean? Are they phony, out of context, real…are they automatically false because they come from the daily mail.

This is why I asked the question the way I did. More will come forward as the investgation on hunter move forward, and if indicted even more…but if Rosemont was paying Joe’s Bills…what does that mean…and do those e-mail complement the texts to his daughter.

It looks to me like Eric Schwerin has responsibilities for handling Joe's estate when he was VP because, as VP, he did what VPs and Presidents are supposed to do and remove themselves from financial managment of their assets. Evidence for this? Well, for starters here is Biden's financial disclosure statement from 2010 when the emails were written (submitted by Biden in 2011): http://pfds.opensecrets.org/N00001669_2010.pdf

You'll notice that there are a number of funds organized and identified in that statement including ones mentioned in the emails where Schwerin asks Hunter if he should pay the bills from one of them. Remember that Joe's oldest son, Beau, had been deployed to Iraq when Joe took office as VP in 2009, leaving Hunter as the obvious choice to be executor of the estate at the time. If Hunter has Eric Schwerin managing the financials, what of it? Given what we appear to know, I'd be more concerned Schwerin and Hunter were skimming of his dad while his dad was occupied in Washington.

Again, the essence of the old thread and this thread comes down to supposition and ill intentions aimed at Joe Biden. Regardless of what you say about your feelings, you aren't impartial. You want blood. But the evidence is against you when you get past the "smoke" to the sources.

[K Graham]

Kevin he was discussing the big guy e-mail, that is one e-mail….you wrote “any” of the e-mails. That is not what AD said at all. Look at about the 3 minute time in the video and he states clearly to slow down and let the investigation take it’s coarse.

He said, and I quote, "Emails from the person who was the investigation’s target or subject are required."

Since NONE of the emails in question are from Joe Biden, then NONE of the emails can incriminate him.

"It’s important to remember that hearsay isn’t admissible in court. As a result, I believe there is a long, long road ahead of you before you get anywhere near the president of the United States,”

That is not true and it is a flat out lie. In fact there are around 8 nuke plants being either built or in the works in Europe…the solar plant in NA can supplement parts of the mediterranean at best. Germany will need about 20 new gas plants as they exit nukes and coal

I never said 100% of Europe's energy would be produced from this one solar farm. Again, your inability to comprehend is one thing but using your miscomprehension as a pretext to win some kind of rhetorical point or to call me a "liar" is just downright pathetic. I said it was in the works, meaning it is a process and once solar takes off in North Africa they'll eventually be providing energy to every country in Europe. No one country relies entirely on just one source of energy, but eventually all of Europe will be purchasing energy from north Africa sun because ultimately it will be the cheapest option.

Why carbon-free Europe will still need North African energy

Elmed interconnector aims to bring solar power from the Sahara to Europe

Solar power from Saharan sun could provide Europe's electricity, says EU

Huge Tunisian solar park hopes to provide Saharan power to Europe

Solar Collectors Covering 0.3 Percent of the Sahara Could Power All of Europe

When you first asked me to back up my claim about the potential of African solar to power Europe, it wasn't because you knew about these projects and were hoping to catch me in a technicality. No, you were completely ignorant about these projects and aspirations. Now you're just being obtuse and intentionally avoiding the point which is that we have the means to produce enough energy to supply our entire country and even the entire world. It's there, just waiting for us to capture it the same way all that oil was sitting under our feet for thousands of years waiting for us to figure out a way to capture it and convert it to energy.

[Markk]

Kevin he was discussing the big guy e-mail, that is one e-mail….you wrote “any” of the e-mails. That is not what AD said at all. Look at about the 3 minute time in the video and he states clearly to slow down and let the investigation take it’s coarse.

He said, and I quote, "Emails from the person who was the investigation’s target or subject are required."

Since NONE of the emails in question are from Joe Biden, then NONE of the emails can incriminate him.

"It’s important to remember that hearsay isn’t admissible in court. As a result, I believe there is a long, long road ahead of you before you get anywhere near the president of the United States,”

That is not true and it is a flat out lie. In fact there are around 8 nuke plants being either built or in the works in Europe…the solar plant in NA can supplement parts of the mediterranean at best. Germany will need about 20 new gas plants as they exit nukes and coal

I never said 100% of Europe's energy would be produced from this one solar farm. Again, your inability to comprehend is one thing but using your miscomprehension as a pretext to win some kind of rhetorical point or to call me a "liar" is just downright pathetic. I said it was in the works, meaning it is a process and once solar takes off in North Africa they'll eventually be providing energy to every country in Europe. No one country relies entirely on just one source of energy, but eventually all of Europe will be purchasing energy from north Africa sun because ultimately it will be the cheapest option.

Why carbon-free Europe will still need North African energy

Elmed interconnector aims to bring solar power from the Sahara to Europe

Solar power from Saharan sun could provide Europe's electricity, says EU

Huge Tunisian solar park hopes to provide Saharan power to Europe

Solar Collectors Covering 0.3 Percent of the Sahara Could Power All of Europe

When you first asked me to back up my claim about the potential of African solar to power Europe, it wasn't because you knew about these projects and were hoping to catch me in a technicality. No, you were completely ignorant about these projects and aspirations. Now you're just being obtuse and intentionally avoiding the point which is that we have the means to produce enough energy to supply our entire country and even the entire world. It's there, just waiting for us to capture it the same way all that oil was sitting under our feet for thousands of years waiting for us to figure out a way to capture it and convert it to energy.

Yes you did…you said “ “ Kevin wrote…”A similar project is in the works to use the North African desert's sunlight to power all of Europe.”


Kevin…”A” is singular. “All” means all. “In the works” means currently, well, in the works. Simply amazing. keep doubling down.

[Markk]

If you think that all this boils down to a cell phone bill you aren’t paying attention.

I don’t think that ‘all this boils down to a cell phone bill’, but you’ve presented the cellphone anecdote as emblematic of something. That something appears to be - absent any actual evidence from you - legal business proceedings.

That is exactly the point. You weren’t paying attention.
; )

No I didn’t, I presented a fact that a investment firm ran and owned by lobbyists, owned by the VP’s son, was paying the VP’s bills. It has nothing to do with what bills were paid, but that bills were being paid…your straw man feel before it was written.