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Re: History of Music

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:16 am
DT if any part of you is interested in viewing dance styles on youtube, make sure that you are looking at old folks doing them or clips directly from those eras. That's really the only way you're going to observe the authentic dances.
Yes, definitely!

The early days of rock were awesome. You were so lucky to be in that generation. Nowadays it's all just Instagram, PC games, TikTok, and OnlyFans. I don't know what my generation is going to tell the younger generations 30 years from now.
Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:16 am

I'm sure I'll think of more and other things I should have included here. I'm doing this off the top of my head in real time. I didn't prepare the reply in advance or anything. I just sort of turned on the music, got on the floor, and danced. :lol:
:lol: There you go. Good!

What you are telling me is very helpful.

So, do you like rockabilly? Why?

8-)

And do you also like R&B? In your opinion, how would you tell the difference between the two?

:D
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huckelberry wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:56 pm
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Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:15 am


True Story: One night I was a little high and started thinking about two songs: Leader of the Pack by the Angels and Society's Child by Janis Ian.

Leader of the Pack is about a girl who can't see her boyfriend because her dad said find someone new, and she had to tell her Jimmy they were through. I've always thought there was something a little pervy about Jimmy sitting on his motorcycle in front of a candy store trying to pick up girls, but as Dr. Spaceman says, the 60's were different times. Jimmy gets pissed, storms off on his bike, drops it, and I would bet dollars to donuts Jimmy wasn't wearing a helmet, with tragic consequences.

Sociologically speaking Society's Child is from the other side of town. Leader of the Pack sounded like Beehive Hairdos from Brooklyn. Society's Child sounded like a Bryn Mawr beret wearing art student. At least we knew the motorcycle dude was named Jimmy, but Society's Child has no name, he is called boy.

BUT THE STRUCTURE OF BOTH SONGS IS VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL. It drove me crazy. I finally figured it out: they were both produced by Shadow Morton, whose also produced Vanilla Fudge. Just think of those three: The Angels, Janis Ian, and Vanilla Fudge. That dude covered a lot of ground.

Anyway, you could argue Janis Ian deserves an honorary mention on Splatter Platters.
MeDotOrg, you have some interesting observations here. Perhaps just an aside, I never imagined the leader of the pack was an age inappropriate guy. I thought he was just another high school student. However I had never seen the video you present with the goofy older guy on a motor bike playing a very unconvincing leader of the pack.

Think slender dark haired 17 year old with a duck tail well greased.

That's Robert Goulet on the bike, huck. Must've been on some variety show. Anyway...here is Mary Weiss singing Leader 13 years ago.

13 years ago. She was 60 years old. She is now 73. You get the picture? 8-)

Shangri-Las Mary Weiss Leader of the Pack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_aSbp9ZIv8
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honorentheos wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:49 am

I assume it's 7. 7/4. Seven quarter notes to the measure.

Thanks. I'm almost done.

Would you happen to know them?

During the guitar solo, would you know what is being used?

A) Wah-Wah

B) Vibrato

C) Echo/Delay

D) Tremolo
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:16 am

Dance? At your service! Since you mentioned Elvis, I'm going to stick with the 50's. I lived with a teenager during that era who taught me to dance to her music by watching American Bandstand after school through part of the 50's. ;-)
I'm glad that you are sharing your memories. It's like you get to relive that time.
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huckelberry wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:03 am
seeing this post again I notice auto correct insists the drummer must be Philadelphia which is not correct
Really? That's weird, but thanks for your help.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:16 am
. I didn't prepare the reply in advance or anything. I just sort of turned on the music, got on the floor, and danced. :lol:
You're good. I'll ask you to dance with me if we ever meet in person.
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:36 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:16 am

Dance? At your service! Since you mentioned Elvis, I'm going to stick with the 50's. I lived with a teenager during that era who taught me to dance to her music by watching American Bandstand after school through part of the 50's. ;-)
I'm glad that you are sharing your memories. It's like you get to relive that time.
I can relive various times in my life any time I want to by putting on the music of whatever period or event.

I don't have time to go into detail and your previous post to me but generally speaking, I like any music I can dance to OR sing to. If I can do both, all the better but my primary interest is probably dance.

I was raised up on all kinds of music and everyone in my family danced.

You asked what I think is the difference between Rockabilly and R&B.

I say it's the beat and the general tone of the music. Got to go listen to the Jan 6th hearings. Talk later if needed.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:14 pm
huckelberry wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:56 pm

MeDotOrg, you have some interesting observations here. Perhaps just an aside, I never imagined the leader of the pack was an age inappropriate guy. I thought he was just another high school student. However I had never seen the video you present with the goofy older guy on a motor bike playing a very unconvincing leader of the pack.

Think slender dark haired 17 year old with a duck tail well greased.

That's Robert Goulet on the bike, huck. Must've been on some variety show. Anyway...here is Mary Weiss singing Leader 13 years ago.

13 years ago. She was 60 years old. She is now 73. You get the picture? 8-)

Shangri-Las Mary Weiss Leader of the Pack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_aSbp9ZIv8
Hmm, well I see that means Mary Weiss was about 15 doing that recording. She looks near that age in the video. Robert Goulet eh, well he did do some acting elsewhere didn't he? I think in this case he is just clowning around a bit.

It also means she is my age which would contribute to my picturing the events as highschool stuff. I looked at the words again I did not see anything to specify the fellows age so people are not required to picture it the same as I did.
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:32 pm
honorentheos wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:49 am

I assume it's 7. 7/4. Seven quarter notes to the measure.

Thanks. I'm almost done.

Would you happen to know them?

During the guitar solo, would you know what is being used?

A) Wah-Wah

B) Vibrato

C) Echo/Delay

D) Tremolo
At first I thought it was a weird, kinda bad question. Then I realized it's asking you to demonstrate knowledge of both the effect as well as song structure. Thus the link to the entire song. For a question aimed at an intro audience, it's more clever than I initially thought.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:02 am
doubtingthomas wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:36 pm


I'm glad that you are sharing your memories. It's like you get to relive that time.
I can relive various times in my life any time I want to by putting on the music of whatever period or event.

I don't have time to go into detail and your previous post to me but generally speaking, I like any music I can dance to OR sing to. If I can do both, all the better but my primary interest is probably dance.

I was raised up on all kinds of music and everyone in my family danced.

You asked what I think is the difference between Rockabilly and R&B.

I say it's the beat and the general tone of the music. Got to go listen to the Jan 6th hearings. Talk later if needed.
Thank you Jersey Girl. You did help a lot.

So, you think Trump is going to get prosecuted? Please update us about the hearings.
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