Mar-A-Lago Legally Searched by FBI

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Re: Mar-A-Lago Legally Searched by FBI

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Vēritās wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 1:54 pm
Binger wrote:"We have a fentanyl crisis and a border crisis but that can wait because some people in Washington need us to serve a warrant on Trump over some boxes for the archives."
Assumptions: Binger assumes the FBI is so incompetent that it can't multitask. The entire FBI is only allowed to work on one case at a time. And again, these are just "some boxes."
Binger wrote:"Kicking doors down is a metaphor for raiding a house"
Not it isn't. It is an apt description of something that never happened. You said it because you're not interested in "questioning" anything, you're only interested in propagating idiotic conspiracy theories.
Almost all garbage comments and fake assumptions. But these two comments are cool. My comments are cool. Veritas's comments are ridiculous.

Kicking down doors is a metaphor for raiding a house. It is because I said it is.

The FBI has a serious problem on their hands. We have crime waves happening in most major cities, we have a fentanyl and opioid crisis, and we have the White House, DOJ and FBI colluding to serve warrants and metaphorically kick the doors down on their political foes. I really don't care what you think of me or my metaphors, that will not change the optics and problem that these institutions have today.
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Re: Mar-A-Lago Legally Searched by FBI

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Vēritās wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 1:54 pm
Has anyone see Binger support his idiotic lie that the FBI "kicked" the doors down at Mar-A-Lago?

He claims it was just a metaphor, but this is a lie. Kicking the door down is quite literally what happens in raids, which this wasn't, but Binger has described it as such several times. He's also embarrassed himself whining constantly about people making assumptions when his rants here are entirely assumption driven. Here's a list just from the first few pages:

"The FBI did not raid Hillary or Hunter's private residence and there was a hell of a lot more known evidence in those cases and a hell of a lot more of a cover up."

Assumptions: Binger assumes to know how much evidence there was against Hillary and how little there is against Trump. He does this to drive in his preferred narratives of "cover ups" because that's what these uneducated keyboard warriors do. They haunt the internet with their presence and bombard it with idiotic conspiracy mongering.

"The FBI just ignored the dudes and women that were banging kids on an island, went along with the Steele Dossier hoax, shrugged at a laptop full of evidence of collusion, and served a political hit for papers to put in an archive, allegedly."

Assumptions: Binger assumes the FBI ignored something because the FBI hasn't given him detailed access to any investigation that they may be doing. He also assumes the Steel Dossier was a hoax because FOX News keeps telling him so, and he also believes the laptop he's never seen is "full of evidence of collusion." And finally he keeps repeating this assumption that the FBI search warrant was over nothing more than putting "inconsequential" files back into the archives.


"Do you have the details from the warrant that suggest the FBI was sent to Mar-A-Lago to raid a home in order to retrieve evidence of treason against the USA, AND do you have the details from the warrant that the evidence could not be retrieved except by a home raid?"

Assumptions: Binger assumed this was a gotcha question when he asked this just days before the details of the warrant were produced, proving he is wrong in all his assumptions.

"Quality and quantity of evidence to show that they had to kick down a door to get some stuff for the archives and that this was the only tool they had left. Yep. In the meantime, we never had enough evidence to figure out who was harming those children but dang, we gotta take care of these archives."

Assumptions: Binger assumes this was a raid. He also assumes they kicked in the door. When it was proven that this never happened he tried to back peddle saying he was just being metaphorical. Metaphor for what? To reinforce the fantasy he's conjured up about the FBI.

"We have a fentanyl crisis and a border crisis but that can wait because some people in Washington need us to serve a warrant on Trump over some boxes for the archives."

Assumptions: Binger assumes the FBI is so incompetent that it can't multitask. The entire FBI is only allowed to work on one case at a time. And again, these are just "some boxes."

"Kicking doors down is a metaphor for raiding a house"

Not it isn't. It is an apt description of something that never happened. You said it because you're not interested in "questioning" anything, you're only interested in propagating idiotic conspiracy theories.
Almost all perfect comments and well researched conclusions. Veritas's comments are cool. Binger’s comments aren’t cool. Veritas's comments are spot on.

Kicking down doors is hyperbole for raiding a house because a clown said it.

The FBI has a serious problem on their hands with right-wing seditionists. We have insurrections and acts of terrorism, we have a Presidential espionage crisis, and we have the White House, DOJ and FBI serving warrants to a President who literally steals classified information. I really don't care what you think of me or my observations, that will not change the optics and problem that these terrorists and spies have today.

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Binger wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 10:21 pm
But a dozen days later, Wall informed Corcoran that she had the blessing of Biden to overrule those privilege claims and share all materials requested by the DOJ and FBI.

"The White House Counsel's Office acquiesced in an extension of the production date to April 29, and so advised NARA," she wrote. "In accord with that agreement, we had not yet provided the FBI with access to the records when we received your letter on April 29, and we have continued to refrain from providing such access to date.
My reaction was this:
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Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:07 am
Your opinion of the above is only a little relevant. The fact that that story is alive while the DOJ and FBI are asking to keep the warrant sealed and while their “anonymous sources” leak another story is the actual story.
"The Counsel to the President has informed me that, in light of the particular circumstances presented here, President Biden defers to my determination, in consultation with the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel, regarding whether or not I should uphold the former President's purported 'protective assertion of executive privilege,'" Wall wrote. "... I have therefore decided not to honor the former President's 'protective' claim of privilege."

So you have the current executive defer to the person who manages the national archives on advice from council as to whether or not executive privilege claimed by the previous executive should prevent a criminal investigation from obtaining materials they argues are pertinent to their investigation. You don't seem to think this is more than political retaliation. The quote you shared does not demand that explanation and does not support it in context of the timeline of attempts to verify and review the material outside of the investigation.
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Kicking down doors is a metaphor for raiding a house. It is because I said it is.
But it wasn't a raid. I have this on the authority of Ron DeSantis:
Ron DeSantis wrote:It was not a raid, they were serving valid process, in accordance with the laws and constitution of the United States and the state of Florida.
To say that it was a raid contradicts the man who according to Atlantic Mike, should be our next president.

Surely you wouldn't disagree with Atlantic Mike, would you?
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Gadianton wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:21 pm
Kicking down doors is a metaphor for raiding a house. It is because I said it is.
But it wasn't a raid. I have this on the authority of Ron DeSantis:
Ron DeSantis wrote:It was not a raid, they were serving valid process, in accordance with the laws and constitution of the United States and the state of Florida.
To say that it was a raid contradicts the man who according to Atlantic Mike, should be our next president.

Surely you wouldn't disagree with Atlantic Mike, would you?
No, Gadianton. I would disagree with Atlantic Mike. Would you?
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Gadianton wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:21 pm
Kicking down doors is a metaphor for raiding a house. It is because I said it is.
But it wasn't a raid. I have this on the authority of Ron DeSantis:
Ron DeSantis wrote:It was not a raid, they were serving valid process, in accordance with the laws and constitution of the United States and the state of Florida.
To say that it was a raid contradicts the man who according to Atlantic Mike, should be our next president.

Surely you wouldn't disagree with Atlantic Mike, would you?

Binger wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:47 am

No, Gadianton. I would disagree with Atlantic Mike. Would you?
Ahh, but do you disagree with Gov. DeSantis? Or is 'raid' also a metaphor--this time one for serving a legal warrant?
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Morley wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:19 pm
Gadianton wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:21 pm


But it wasn't a raid. I have this on the authority of Ron DeSantis:



To say that it was a raid contradicts the man who according to Atlantic Mike, should be our next president.

Surely you wouldn't disagree with Atlantic Mike, would you?

Binger wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:47 am

No, Gadianton. I would disagree with Atlantic Mike. Would you?
Ahh, but do you disagree with Gov. DeSantis?
No
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Morley wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:19 pm
Gadianton wrote:
Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:21 pm


But it wasn't a raid. I have this on the authority of Ron DeSantis:



To say that it was a raid contradicts the man who according to Atlantic Mike, should be our next president.

Surely you wouldn't disagree with Atlantic Mike, would you?

Binger wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:47 am

No, Gadianton. I would disagree with Atlantic Mike. Would you?
Ahh, but do you disagree with Gov. DeSantis?
I mean, sometimes yes.

Do you disagree with Biden?
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Binger wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:21 pm

No
Thanks.


edit: Is 'raid' also a metaphor--this time one for serving a legal warrant?
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Morley wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:26 pm
Binger wrote:
Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:21 pm

No
Thanks.


edit: Is 'raid' also a metaphor--this time one for serving a legal warrant?
Sure. Yes, they serve the legal warrant, LOL. Then they raid the joint and find 700 pages in 15 boxes, LOL. It is a literal metaphor. And then an anonymous source leaks the details to the press, LOL. And then the DOJ and FBI go back to the court and say, naaaaah, nah, nah, we want to hide the details of the warrant now, we changed our mind, LOL. And then the White House says they were okay with the raid/legal warrant, LOL but they knew nothing about it, LOL. And in the meantime, all that matters is that the anonymous source leaked that the 700 pages included nuclear secrets that were being monetized in a treason and espionage scandal, LOL. And if you question the anonymous source - then you have a theory that there is a conspiracy and you believe the theory and you believe the conspiracy. :lol: :lol: :lol:

And, in the meantime.... the DOJ and FBI have some explaining to do about this:
The leadership of the FBI forbade agents from investigating Hunter Biden’s laptop until after the 2020 election was decided, according to whistleblowers that came forward to Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI).

The FBI postponed investigating Hunter’s laptop because the agency was “not going to change the outcome of the election again,” the senator revealed whistleblowers’ statement on Wednesday in a letter written to Justice Department (DOJ) Inspector General Michael Horowitz.
There is a huge difference between a whistleblower and an anonymous source who is trafficking rumors and propaganda.
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