So far I have had 3. I will probably get another booster later. I take a yearly flu shot also. It's called - "risk mitigation".
Now - why shouldn't I? Can you post one scientifically valid reason why I shouldn't get periodic boosters - or vaccines in general?
No. You should do what you want for the reasons that you think justify doing what you want.
And, I think that other people should do what they want for the reasons that they think justify doing what they want.
And, I think that there are risks to these vaccines and that they do not prevent transmission and that many people would much rather deal with the current mutation of the virus than the risks related to a crappy vaccine where the proprietors are not accountable. That is what I can post.
So far I have had 3. I will probably get another booster later. I take a yearly flu shot also. It's called - "risk mitigation".
Now - why shouldn't I? Can you post one scientifically valid reason why I shouldn't get periodic boosters - or vaccines in general?
Yup. Same here. If you get an attack it is likely to be very mild compared to what it might have been if you were unvaccinated.
So, without seeing the data behind the picture, it looks like unvaccinated people have a 0.00008 chance of hospitalization and the vaccinated and boosted people have a .00003 chance. But the unvaccinated people have a zero chance of adverse effects from a rushed vaccine and the boosted people have recurring chance of an adverse effect.
Seems like reasonable enough data to let reasonable people choose for themselves to do whatever the hell they want.
And, I think that there are risks to these vaccines
Vaccines risk is so slight as to be negligible and completely subsumed by the difference in hospitalization, intubation, and death rates.
and that they do not prevent transmission
straight up BS contrary to all available evidence
and that many people would much rather deal with the current mutation of the virus than the risks related to a crappy vaccine where the proprietors are not accountable. That is what I can post.
And, I think that there are risks to these vaccines
Vaccines risk is so slight as to be negligible and completely subsumed by the difference in hospitalization, intubation, and death rates.
and that they do not prevent transmission
straight up BS contrary to all available evidence
and that many people would much rather deal with the current mutation of the virus than the risks related to a crappy vaccine where the proprietors are not accountable. That is what I can post.
People are stupid & selfish - what can we say?
We agree on some things. Vaccine risk is slight - agreed. That means it is not zero, correct? Hospitalization risk is also slight, .00008 without the vaccine and .00003 with it, according to Chap. If anyone is in a group where vaccine risk is higher than .00005, well, then they will probably pass on the vaccine and that is their choice and it is not a stupid choice.
Further, the .00008 risk appears to be for all the population. If that number is .0000000000008 for some people, the vaccine is a ridiculous choice.
So, without seeing the data behind the picture, it looks like unvaccinated people have a 0.00008 chance of hospitalization and the vaccinated and boosted people have a .00003 chance. But the unvaccinated people have a zero chance of adverse effects from a rushed vaccine and the boosted people have recurring chance of an adverse effect.
Seems like reasonable enough data to let reasonable people choose for themselves to do whatever the hell they want.
Yes. This is just like saying that people who choose to not use seatbelts have a zero chance of adverse effects from seatbelt failure during an automobile crash.
And, I think that there are risks to these vaccines
Vaccines risk is so slight as to be negligible and completely subsumed by the difference in hospitalization, intubation, and death rates.
and that they do not prevent transmission
straight up B.S. contrary to all available evidence
and that many people would much rather deal with the current mutation of the virus than the risks related to a crappy vaccine where the proprietors are not accountable. That is what I can post.
People are stupid & selfish - what can we say?
You're talking to someone who said the 9th amendment had nothing to do with the Bill of Rights. If everyone thought like Binger, humanity would be half extinct by now.
"I am not an American ... In my view premarital sex should be illegal ...(there are) mentally challenged people with special needs like myself- Ajax18
Remember when we were getting 2000+ dead every single day because of COVID?
Yeah, all that stopped.
So what changed? The country is now more than 70% fully vaccinated. That's what changed.
The fact that any grown adult would still think he has an anti-vaccine point to make this far into the pandemic, is a sad testament to our species. Its like facts and evidence are only proof of a coverup of some sort. HFS I can't imagine living in such paranoid delusions.
"I am not an American ... In my view premarital sex should be illegal ...(there are) mentally challenged people with special needs like myself- Ajax18
Binger, your numbers for hospitalization rate are bupkis - good studies for hospitalizations for cv-19 cumulative in the US is 3.5 million - that is 1% of a 332 million member population. If we look at hospitalization rate of those infected it is even higher 3.5%.
Binger, your numbers for hospitalization rate are bupkis - good studies for hospitalizations for cv-19 cumulative in the US is 3.5 million - that is 1% of a 332 million member population. If we look at hospitalization rate of those infected it is even higher.
Remember when we were getting 2000+ dead every single day because of COVID?
Yeah, all that stopped.
So what changed? The country is now more than 70% fully vaccinated. That's what changed.
The fact that any grown adult would still think he has an anti-vaccine point to make this far into the pandemic, is a sad testament to our species. Its like facts and evidence are only proof of a coverup of some sort. HFS I can't imagine living in such paranoid delusions.
So you like Trump for getting us this vaccine? And you credit operation warp speed, or nah?
