Mar-A-Lago Legally Searched by FBI

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Re: Mar-A-Lago Legally Searched by FBI

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Beschloss: We Have Never Seen Anything Close To This From Any President
The video presentation above points out that no other president in our history came even close to damaging both our national security and the credibility and trustworthiness of our country with other nations -- particularly the ones whom we depend on as friends and allies -- as much as Trump did with his cavalier or possibly even malicious disregard for safeguarding sensitive and classified data.
After the redacted affidavit in the Mar-a-Lago search was unsealed, Presidential historian Michael Beschloss talks about the uncharted territory America has entered.
See also: Trump Wanted Classified information ‘To Help Himself,’ Says Rep. Swalwell
Rep. Eric Swalwell joins MSNBC’s Ali Velshi to discuss how Democrats will try to assess the damage Donald Trump posed to national security with the classified material he had at Mar-a-Lago, including national defense information that Swalwell says “jeopardized” U.S. troops and human sources whose “real lives are at risk.” He adds that Republicans backing Trump on this gives the American people a “clear choice” in November.
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Also, interesting that Kushner got around $2B from the Saudis back in April. Can you imagine had the roles been reversed and it was Hunter Biden getting $2B and JB was caught with stolen classified and they were just recently hosting the Saudis in Delaware?

Come the “F” on. Anyone on the Right gonna have some integrity and admit you can’t steal classified information?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:22 pm
Also, interesting that Kushner got around $2B from the Saudis back in April. Can you imagine had the roles been reversed and it was Hunter Biden getting $2B and JB was caught with stolen classified and they were just recently hosting the Saudis in Delaware?

Come the “F” on. Anyone on the Right gonna have some integrity and admit you can’t steal classified information?

- Doc
And this really highlights the difference between our two parties too if you think about it. All of the necessary elements to a perfect conspiracy already exist on the Right, but no one in Left Wing media is pushing an Alex Jones style conspiracy about Trump selling secrets to our enemies abroad. The Right is constantly pushing whacked out conspiracy theories because they have two dots and think they can connect them to show a unicorn. In the case of Trump, he's quite literally guilty of everything he said HC was guilty of, and it just goes to show you how far the Trumpish delusions have gone if they're unable to apply any of the logic they did during "Lock her up Lock her up" period to the guy who is about to be indicted.

One of the main reasons I switched parties is because I was tired of being associated with a party that is overwhelmingly stupid AF. They reject science on virtually every issue (climate, pandemic, abortion, clean energy, etc) they only support policies that hurt the working people and help the rich, and all the while they claim to be patriotic and true American. And now Lorraine Boebert says the quiet part out loud insisting she is tired of all this "separation between church and state nonsense." They want a theocratic state where laws are ultimately shaped by the backwoods preachers who dropped out of high school and opted for a divinity degree from Liberty U.

And now after Marjorie Taylor-Greene and Lorraine Bimbo, you'd think they couldn't possibly make their party any dumber.

Herschel Walker says hold my beer and Dr. Oz says "I'll be there in a minute."

In Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson was busted for his involvement in the fake electors scam, and will probably get reelected for his willingness to break the law for Trump. Arizona's Blake Masters is a candidate who blamed gun violence on black people. Ohio's Senate candidate J.D. Vance compared abortion to slavery and said Biden is flooding America with Fentanyl to kill Trump voters.

The level of crazy craziness that is the current GOP hasn't even reached its peak yet.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:22 pm
Also, interesting that Kushner got around $2B from the Saudis back in April. Can you imagine had the roles been reversed and it was Hunter Biden getting $2B and JB was caught with stolen classified and they were just recently hosting the Saudis in Delaware?

Come the “F” on. Anyone on the Right gonna have some integrity and admit you can’t steal classified information?

- Doc
Yes. Can you imagine the FBI would interfere with an election to protect Hunter Biden? And then interfere in an election again like they did before? Gosh. Imagine that. Can you?

Good Lordy lord lord lord, docky. What theory do you have that would explain why the FBI needs to make your enemies so bad and your crack smoking friends such victims?
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Morley wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:32 pm
Gadianton wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:26 am
Pressure is on. He's really going to be forced to run now.
Binger wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:34 pm
DOJ must immediately explain the reason for its raid & it must be more than a search for inconsequential archives or it will be viewed as a political tactic and undermine any future credible investigation & legitimacy of January 6 investigations.
Unfortunately, both of these statements are true.
Both of these statements are still true. If the second statement describes a priority for the DOJ, they are failing at their priorities. If the first statement by Gad is the DOJ's priority, they are killing it.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:03 pm
¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:50 pm
11 sets of classified docs including at least on TS/SCI.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/12/politics ... index.html
This is espionage.

- Doc
Also, remind me again what theory you have to support the espionage conspiracy? Or, is it a conspiracy that supports your espionage theory?
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Vēritās wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 12:44 pm

Herschel Walker says hold my beer and Dr. Oz says "I'll be there in a minute."
Herschel Walker and Dr. Oz are disgraceful candidates for leadership of the United States. There is no question about that. No matter how great they were on the gridiron or on the screen, as fiscal and social custodians of a branch of the USA - no, not good. Not even a little bit good. And what should we make of that?

Well, for one, they are both a metric and standard shitton better than the D candidates (Warnock and Fetterman) on the same respective ballots and they are as qualified or more qualified than anyone in this particular club: https://www.democrats.senate.gov/about- ... our-caucus.

Remember some of the key players in that goddamn club: Feinstein, Coons, Hirono, Schumer, Booker and on and on and on with the clowns. Some of them are so old they don't know a Tik Tok from a Kit Kat and the rest of them are too busy excusing naked emperors to do anything worthwhile. The entire chamber is a clown show that votes for McConnell and Schumer to lead their skits. These are the same damned morons that had a kangaroo trial and one of their own acted as a fake judge and they thought this kangaroo crap was real. The Senate is not serious, but some candidates are a hell of a lot better than Fetterman and Warnock.
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MeDotOrg wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:12 am
I think there has to be a prosecution in this case. If the United States does NOT prosecute, what are we saying to all future sources of human or signal intelligence? What do we say to foreign governments who share secrets with us trusting we will keep them secret?

Imagine if the Japanese knew that we had broken their naval codes, or the Nazis knew we had cracked Enigma during World War II. Forget about the message we send to MAGAland if Trump is charged. Think about the damage we do to our intelligence gathering if we do NOT charge him.
You are absolutely right. DT needs to go to jail for the rest of his life. That thought doesn't bring me any joy as I see DT as just a symptom of the degeneracy of today's "regular guy". The self-imposed suffering of any DT worshipers? That's a different story.

Anyway, people don't understand why the espionage act is what it is. We have to prevent the kind of scenarios you're speaking of from even possibly happening. It doesn't matter if he's sold, lost, or shared any secrets yet. Putting oneself in the position where these things can happen itself is criminalized as an additional layer of protection.
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Re: Mar-A-Lago Legally Searched by FBI

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Binger wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:52 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:03 pm


This is espionage.

- Doc
Also, remind me again what theory you have to support the espionage conspiracy? Or, is it a conspiracy that supports your espionage theory?
It’s not a theory. The act itself falls under USC 18 something something (google it). It’s literally a fact if you believe the law is just.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 5:01 pm
Binger wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:52 pm


Also, remind me again what theory you have to support the espionage conspiracy? Or, is it a conspiracy that supports your espionage theory?
It’s not a theory. The act itself falls under USC 18 something something (google it). It’s literally a fact if you believe the law is just.

- Doc
It is literally a theory. And it is literally a conspiracy. And it is literally based on anonymous sources and a redacted amount of garbage that was given to the judge who was the former lawyer for players in Epstein’s racket.

You literally have no other information than what you got from CNN and their ilk who took anonymously sourced and leaked information about a political foe from the FBI and DOJ.

This is not that hard.

This time they may get Trump. But at a price that was not worth paying. And doing so by playing election games at the DOJ and FBI is an actual insurrection, not just a feelings hurter kind of insurrection. If Trump had sent the FBI to disseminate Hunter’s information, for example, you would be pissed and Trump would be wrong and liable.

You are just posturing for your naked emperor and for a particularly corrupt act by the FBI and DOJ.
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