Mar-A-Lago Legally Searched by FBI

[Doctor Steuss]

On the math, yes.
On the B.S., just SMH again. But, at least we agree on the math so that is good.

Agreement is good.

Disagreement is good too.

Math is the devil.

[Vēritās]

Try not lying. I do not advocate for carte blanche and law violations.

Please list the total number of times you're expressed your issues with Trump violating said laws.

Sounds to me like you would prefer that Trump run again, given his probability of losing again.

You're damn right I would. A second election loss to further crumble that ridiculous ego of his would be glorious. But what would be more glorious if he's indicted for the crimes he's committed. In terms of trusting our institutions, I agree they are useless to some extent because in a sane world Trump would have been put in jail years ago. But our system rewards rich, white, male criminals who can afford to NDAs, out of court settlements, and an army of lawyers whose only job is to delay, obfuscate and postpone.

I mean why the hell do we even have the emoluments clause in the Constitution? Trump violated that relentlessly throughout his four years in office and no one has even considered indicting him for it. How come? Might as well just pass an amendment to have it removed as it is apparently useless in protecting the integrity of our system.

The fact is none of this is political. The National Archives started this, not the DOJ. The second Trump took docs to Mar-A-Lago the DOJ had every right to start an investigation, however they didn't even consider getting involved, and they didn't until the NARA asked them to because it had been more than a year trying to recoup highly classified docs. Of course, this is all basic information you won't hear about over at FOX. They're still preaching this lie that Trump declassified everything and that the Presidential Records Act permits him to retain them with the subtext reading, "DOJ and FBI are Politicized." There is zero, ZERO evidence that this is political. Your idiotic comment about the midterms ignores the fact that there is ALWAYS a friggin election around the corner.

So answer a damned question for once in your life. If you were to find out for certain that Trump was retaining docs illegally, at what point in time would an indictment meet your satisfaction?

The fact is you don't care if he's indicted, you're only blathering here because you want to bash our "institutions" and share those idiotic conspiracy brain thoughts.

You really should be an Anarchist by now. I mean, with this level of skepticism towards quite literally every institutions that allows this country to function, you might as well go ahead and sign up with your local anarchist charter.

[Binger]

On the math, yes.
On the B.S., just SMH again. But, at least we agree on the math so that is good.

Agreement is good.

Disagreement is good too.

Math is the devil.

Willie says that if he dies high he will be halfway to heaven. Which, when I thought about that some more, may put him halfway to hell. Regardless, music needs math and the devil.

[Binger]

Try not lying. I do not advocate for carte blanche and law violations.

Please list the total number of times you're expressed your issues with Trump violating said laws.

Sounds to me like you would prefer that Trump run again, given his probability of losing again.

You're damn right I would. A second election loss to further crumble that ridiculous ego of his would be glorious. But what would be more glorious if he's indicted for the crimes he's committed. In terms of trusting our institutions, I agree they are useless to some extent because in a sane world Trump would have been put in jail years ago. But our system rewards rich, white, male criminals who can afford to NDAs, out of court settlements, and an army of lawyers whose only job is to delay, obfuscate and postpone.

I mean why the hell do we even have the emoluments clause in the Constitution? Trump violated that relentlessly throughout his four years in office and no one has even considered indicting him for it. How come? Might as well just pass an amendment to have it removed as it is apparently useless in protecting the integrity of our system.

The fact is none of this is political. The National Archives started this, not the DOJ. The second Trump took docs to Mar-A-Lago the DOJ had every right to start an investigation, however they didn't even consider getting involved, and they didn't until the NARA asked them to because it had been more than a year trying to recoup highly classified docs. Of course, this is all basic information you won't hear about over at FOX. They're still preaching this lie that Trump declassified everything and that the Presidential Records Act permits him to retain them with the subtext reading, "DOJ and FBI are Politicized." There is zero, ZERO evidence that this is political. Your idiotic comment about the midterms ignores the fact that there is ALWAYS a friggin election around the corner.

So answer a damned question for once in your life. If you were to find out for certain that Trump was retaining docs illegally, at what point in time would an indictment meet your satisfaction?

The fact is you don't care if he's indicted, you're only blathering here because you want to bash our "institutions" and share those idiotic conspiracy brain thought.

You really should be an Anarchist by now. I mean, with this level of skepticism towards quite literally every institutions that allows this country to function, you might as well go ahead and sign up with your local anarchist charter.

Respect is earned.

I am not an anarchist and I am not interested in their local chapters. Those are your people, the Antifas. I want nothing to do with that garbage.

[Vēritās]

I personally (speculatively, of course) have no doubt there will be lengthy conversations at multiple levels about when to indict, if there is indeed a decision to do so. After the Comey letter, I imagine there’s a hyper-awareness in the DOJ of not wanting to unwittingly (or wittingly) influence elections.

Yes, Comey letter suggesting HC will be investigated 12 days before the general election, not political. Investigating Trump (after buttloads of evidence demands it) two years before the general election, well, that's obviously political, right?

That being said, I don’t really see how a Trump indictment could influence an election in any meaningful way. If anything, it would likely play in the favor of MAGA politicians by mobilizing the MAGA core for maximizing campaign donations, and election turnout. Are there really that many voters still left on the fence regarding Trump?

Yep. Consider that just a few days before this investigation was revealed, Ron DeSantis suddenly became the darling of FOX News and they had all but dropped Trump as a viable candidate for 2024. So they had a full two years to prop DeSantis up as the next man up and he was already beating Trump in some polling. But now all that is gone because Trump threw himself into limelight again making himself a martyr. He's now centerstage and all the right wing media can do is bend over backwards with all these mental gymnastics trying to defend him because they think defending him is synonymous with defending the Republican party.

This can only help the Democrats retain the White House in 2024.

[Vēritās]

I am not an anarchist and I am not interested in their local chapters. Those are your people, the Antifas. I want nothing to do with that garbage.

Antifa members aren't exclusively anarchists, but unlike anarchists like you they have the courage of their own convictions.

[Moksha]

The best way to get Kirton McConkie on board with keeping all documents secret is to suggest the missing 116 pages have been found in a Mar-a-Lago root cellar.

[Binger]

I am not an anarchist and I am not interested in their local chapters. Those are your people, the Antifas. I want nothing to do with that garbage.

Antifa members aren't exclusively anarchists, but unlike anarchists like you they have the courage of their own convictions.

My convictions are solid. Some of them are so basic they don’t require courage. Like my conviction to not be part of Antifa. That is a low-courage conviction and a high common sense decision.

I am not an anarchist. I also do not endorse or participate in things that undermine democracy, like voting by mail, for example.

[Res Ipsa]

Interesting day. The judge unsealed the more detailed inventory that she ordered the FBI to prepare. Box 2 is interesting. It includes both classified docs and empty folders used to contain classified docs. I wonder if all the documents from the cover photos are accounted for. I’ll bet someone is working on that.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 39.1_1.pdf

ETA: This looks like a pretty comprehensive summary of yesterday’s hearing. https://www.lawfareblog.com/mar-lago-sh ... eral-court

[¥akaSteelhead]

I stopped counting the number of actual TSCI docs at 18, not the covers - the actual TSCI docs.

Why all the empty doc covers though? That is a question.....