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[Morley]

According to Erikson, the onus for negotiating this stage is on the individual, not on society arranging dates.

I'm not advocating for arranged marriages or dates. I'm simply pointing out the problem that many individuals are entering a relationship late in life. Some in the Red Pill is telling young men to date after 30.

Whatever it means that "Red Pill is telling young men to date after 30" --or whatever that has to do with anything either you or I have said.

Make your argument. But leave poor Erik Erikson, pop psychology, and pretend evopsych out of it.

[doubtingthomas]

Make your argument. But leave poor Erik Erikson, pop psychology, and pretend evopsych out of it.

Would you agree there's an increasing number of men their 20s and 30s who have never been in an intimate relationship? What does Erikson predict about the young adults who fail to form an intimate connection?

[Morley]

Make your argument. But leave poor Erik Erikson, pop psychology, and pretend evopsych out of it.

Would you agree that many men in their 20s and 30s have never experienced an intimate relationship?

Sure. Many woman haven't either. Many men and women in their forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, and eighties haven't experienced intimate relationships, either.

Don't conflate the capacity for intimacy with romantic love. Neither should you confuse intimacy with sex. One can be married and fornicating every night without developing the capacity for intimacy.

Sure, romantic pairings can result in intimate relationships, but they aren't the only path to intimacy. A genuine friendship is an intimate relationship. Good family dynamics can develop into intimate relationships. There are many roads to intimacy. We should all be traveling more than one of them.

What does Erikson predict about the young adults who fail to form an intimate connection?

They get stuck in that stage. (Yeah, very Freudian.)

Read the book. As I said, it's written in a way so as to be very accessible. Amazon has the Kindle version for eleven bucks.

[Marcus]

Make your argument. But leave poor Erik Erikson, pop psychology, and pretend evopsych out of it.

Would you agree that many men in their 20s and 30s have never experienced an intimate relationship?

Sure. Many woman haven't either. Many men and women in their forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, and eighties haven't experienced intimate relationships, either....

Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I'm not sure DT will get it, but thank you for talking about people.

[Morley]

Sure. Many woman haven't either. Many men and women in their forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, and eighties haven't experienced intimate relationships, either....

Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I'm not sure DT will get it, but thank you for talking about people.

Ha! You're most welcome.

[Morley]

What does Erikson predict about the young adults who fail to form an intimate connection?

Read the book. As I said, it's written in a way so as to be very accessible. Amazon has the Kindle version for eleven bucks.

Thomas. An afterword: Remember, if you read this book looking for answers, that it was written 70 years ago. Though it's still widely regarded, it's the theory of one man, written a long time ago, and may not necessarily be generalizable to your topic. In psychology, as in much of the social sciences, any given school of thought is not regarded as gospel for the entire discipline. This is a mistake you make when you point out one sentence, in one abstract, of one study, and declare it to be "what the science says" on that topic.



Edit: My god, that was pedantic. I guess old habits die hard.

[Res Ipsa]

What does Erikson predict about the young adults who fail to form an intimate connection?

Read the book. As I said, it's written in a way so as to be very accessible. Amazon has the Kindle version for eleven bucks.

Thomas. An afterword: Remember, if you read this book looking for answers, that it was written 70 years ago. Though it's still widely regarded, it's the theory of one man, written a long time ago, and may not necessarily be generalizable to your topic. In psychology, as in much of the social sciences, any given school of thought is not regarded as gospel for the entire discipline. This is a mistake you make when you point out one sentence, in one abstract, of one study, and declare it to be "what the science says" on that topic.

Morely, thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise on this topic. It is very helpful.

[Doctor Steuss]

Sure, romantic pairings can result in intimate relationships, but they aren't the only path to intimacy. A genuine friendship is an intimate relationship. Good family dynamics can develop into intimate relationships. There are many roads to intimacy. We should all be traveling more than one of them.

I heart this.

Thank you (as always) for your wonderful posts.

[doubtingthomas]

Sure. Many woman haven't either. Many men and women in their forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, and eighties haven't experienced intimate relationships, either....

Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I'm not sure DT will get it, but thank you for talking about people.

I'm sure you'll never get it. It's a lot easier for women to get into a relationship. For ages 18 to 33, the majority of singles are men, it's almost two guys for every woman. A woman who is unable to get into a relationship has bigger problems to worry about.

[doubtingthomas]

Don't conflate the capacity for intimacy with romantic love. Neither should you confuse intimacy with sex. One can be married and fornicating every night without developing the capacity for intimacy.

Sure, romantic pairings can result in intimate relationships, but they aren't the only path to intimacy. A genuine friendship is an intimate relationship. Good family dynamics can develop into intimate relationships. There are many roads to intimacy. We should all be traveling more than one of them.

True, but people have fewer friends than ever. Men are less likely to have good friends, or a best friend. It's very hard to make new friends nowadays.

They get stuck in that stage. (Yeah, very Freudian.)

Read the book. As I said, it's written in a way so as to be very accessible. Amazon has the Kindle version for eleven bucks.

I'll check it out when I have the time. Thank you for the suggestion, I'll probably read it in December.