BYP Hosts Dr. Charlie Harrell - Does Scripture Teach a Great Apostasy?

[Philo Sofee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz7qmHr4fV4

Tomorrow night live, Dr. Harrell will join me and we shall do an examination of the texts Mormons use to justify interpreting history as a Great Apostasy from Jesus' time to 1830. Dr. Harrell's very scholarly and useful book "This is My Doctrine" Chapter 2 is where we will be getting our materials, and discussing them in depth. You are all cordially invited to attend, look forward to seeing you there.

We will be having a Q & A afterwards, so please do come with your thoughtful question and comments.

[huckelberry]

As a matter of preview, what sort of texts are to be considered here? scripture fragments?

Is a stronger case not to be made looking at, 4th century religious violence (repeated in later centuries) Christian disunity so bad that no resistance could be put together against Islamic expansion except by creating crusades, violent oppression of divergent groups,(reformation related wars) witch hunts and executions, brutalization of indigenous peoples in the new world, expansion of slavery, anti Semitic violence ..... Oppression of black people.

[drumdude]

Given the path that the current church is on, they may not want to continue teaching too much about the great apostasy.

Because all the justifications for labeling the Catholic Church as in apostasy are there in spades with the LDS church.

[Philo Sofee]

Given the path that the current church is on, they may not want to continue teaching too much about the great apostasy.

Because all the justifications for labeling the Catholic Church as in apostasy are there in spades with the LDS church.

One of the points we will be bringing up I suspect.

[Philo Sofee]

As a matter of preview, what sort of texts are to be considered here? scripture fragments?

Is a stronger case not to be made looking at, 4th century religious violence (repeated in later centuries) Christian disunity so bad that no resistance could be put together against Islamic expansion except by creating crusades , violent oppression of divergent groups,(reformation related wars) witch hunts and executions, brutalization of indigenous peoples in the new world, expansion of slavery, anti Semitic violence ..... Oppression of black people.

For this particular live session we will be looking at how Mormons - Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Sainters (sheesh! the idiot things people do to keep the church happy) have interpreted the Bible texts to show an apostasy was foretold and prophesied so that Joseph Smith's restoration is scriptural. The missionary proof texts, etc.

[huckelberry]

For this particular live session we will be looking at how Mormons - Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Sainters (sheesh! the idiot things people do to keep the church happy) have interpreted the Bible texts to show an apostasy was foretold and prophesied so that Joseph Smith's restoration is scriptural. The missionary proof texts, etc.

I am afraid those have gotten lost from my memory banks.

[Shulem]

For this particular live session we will be looking at how Mormons - Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Sainters (sheesh! the idiot things people do to keep the church happy) have interpreted the Bible texts to show an apostasy was foretold and prophesied so that Joseph Smith's restoration is scriptural. The missionary proof texts, etc.

I am afraid those have gotten lost from my memory banks.

Standard Mormon missionary BS:

Acts 3:21
2 Thes 2:3

[Philo Sofee]

For this particular live session we will be looking at how Mormons - Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Sainters (sheesh! the idiot things people do to keep the church happy) have interpreted the Bible texts to show an apostasy was foretold and prophesied so that Joseph Smith's restoration is scriptural. The missionary proof texts, etc.

I am afraid those have gotten lost from my memory banks.

We will be happily refreshing them for everyone... and analyzing them in detail as well.

[hauslern]

Years ago I asked Wesley P Walters to review a paper the journal Church History by Nibley "The Passing of the Primitive Church."

This was fyi his response:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zg1 ... Pm-UY/edit

[Philo Sofee]

Years ago I asked Wesley P Walters to review a paper the journal Church History by Nibley "The Passing of the Primitive Church."

This was fyi his response:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zg1 ... Pm-UY/edit

V-E-R-Y interesting! Thank you for sharing that Noel...