New Mormon Doctrine - the church is identical to the Savior
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In short, to equate human leaders with God is a dangerous, fascistic thing to promote.
“The past no longer belongs only to those who once lived it; the past belongs to those who claim it, and are willing to explore it, and to infuse it with meaning for those alive today.”—Margaret Atwood
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He did. In the sacred grove.
This was an awesome talk. I appreciate the link.
A scripture was referred to.
Helaman 5:12
Worth reading again.
Listened to the talk from beginning to end. How many others here did? Context makes all the difference. I’ve said that many a time. And it’s true.
Regards,
MG
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Prāyaścitta the Sanskrit word which means "atonement, penance, expiation". In Hinduism, it is a dharma-related term and refers to voluntarily accepting one's errors and misdeeds, confession, repentance, means of penance and expiation to undo or reduce the karmic consequences. - wikiMG 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:29 amHe did. In the sacred grove.
This was an awesome talk. I appreciate the link.
A scripture was referred to.
Helaman 5:12
Worth reading again.
Listened to the talk from beginning to end. How many others here did? Context makes all the difference. I’ve said that many a time. And it’s true.
Regards,
MG
Here’s some more reading for your spiritual growth:
https://vaniquotes.org/wiki/Atonement_(BG_and_SB)
Here’s a copy of the BG for your study:
https://library.um.edu.mo/ebooks/b17771201.pdf
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Hugh Nibley claimed he bumped into Adolf Hitler, Albert Einstein, Winston Churchill, Gertrude Stein, and the Grand Duke Vladimir Romanoff. Dishonesty is baked into Mormonism.
Re: New Mormon Doctrine - the church is identical to the Savior
There is that risk. But then on the other hand we have Amos 3:7.
And we find ourselves somewhere in between the potential dangers and the potential blessings that are attached, one way or the other, to prophetical influence. For good or for ill.
The hope is that a prophet that we sustain as a ‘true’ prophet will not lead us astray.
I think that the talk linked to in this thread does an excellent job helping us know how and when to rely on prophets.
I’m hoping others listened to the complete talk.
Regards,
MG
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Listen to the whole talk in the spirit in which it was given and I think you will see it differently. But then again, maybe not.
I know a while back you said you were not going to respond to my posts anymore. In your mind I’m sure that you thought you had good reasons not to do so.
I don’t expect that you will/need to respond to this one.
I would only suggest that you and others actually listen to the whole talk…if you didn’t.
Regards,
MG
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That's not self-explanatory. You can't just say "Amos 3:7" and expect anyone to be persuaded by that. This verse does not equate human leaders with God.
“The past no longer belongs only to those who once lived it; the past belongs to those who claim it, and are willing to explore it, and to infuse it with meaning for those alive today.”—Margaret Atwood
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What do you think this scripture is saying?Amos:3
7Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
Regards,
MG
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But what about the centuries and centuries of the so-called Great Apostasy when God could do nothing because he had no prophets to reveal anything to?
I don't believe in Amos 3:7 any more than Talmage's so-called Great Apostasy.
Mormonism is false and I know that with all my mind and heart. I so testify.
I have had my own bloody revelations and they differ from Joseph Smith's who was constantly lying and making crap up.
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"I'm on paid sabbatical from BYU in exchange for my promise to use this time to finish two books."
Daniel C. Peterson, 2014
Daniel C. Peterson, 2014
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For one thing, it is a load of codswallop. For surely the Lord God does lots of things without revealing a damn thing to his servants the prophets.
“The past no longer belongs only to those who once lived it; the past belongs to those who claim it, and are willing to explore it, and to infuse it with meaning for those alive today.”—Margaret Atwood