Oh? What writings of his did you read when you were attending BYU?
- Doc
Man, you’ve got me going back forty five years plus or minus. My guess is that my dad, he graduated from UCLA way back when in neuroscience with a PhD., had stuff laying around and I picked it up and read it when the family moved up to Utah while I was at…or before(?)…BYU. Or I ran across stuff as I was taking my linguistics class. I really don’t know. I just remember becoming familiar with him and admiring him. It could have been in Psychology Today magazine. We subscribed to it back at some time or another.
Articles written in other magazines? I don’t know.
It’s hard to say.
Sorry to be a bit wishy washy. That was a long time ago. Longer than the age of a lot of folks on this board if I was to hazard a guess.
But I’m still standing!
Regards,
MG
Wanna know how I know MG never read anything from Pinker?
Dishonesty is baked into Mormonism.
eta: I read the blank slate a few years after I left Mormonism. I remember bringing the book into work, which sparked some interesting conversations with my co-workers, some of which were deeply religious. Since I have a degree in SocPsych there was always the Nature vs Nurture discussion with regard to human nature.
The tl;DIDN’T READ - Most of human behavior is driven by biological and genetic factors. He also discussed gender, race, and parenting. As a psychologist, I think he really opened up some doors for the gender identity movement, but it didn’t really start to spread hard until 2015’ish, so I’m not sure why it took off when it did, but aside from Kinsey I think Pinker probably had the biggest pop-sci influence on gender.
- Doc
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I’ve received notification from the moderation team that MG 2.0’s problematic behaviour is not going to be dealt with. That’s their prerogative. I’m done.
no surprise. all we can do is ignore, or continue to point it out.
MG meanders some and makes some generalized statement and a whole posse comes after him in attack mode.He dodges deflects and hopes to survive and any hope of a conversation on the subject matter drowns.He is close to being the only representative of a point of view of significance to this board (an actual Mormon believer).One could wish he wouldn't get tangled up but I see little point in the gang attack.
Yeah, around 1978, by somebody else, probably not Pinker, maybe in Psychology Today, around the time MG was at BYU...and stuff.
The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature is a best-selling 2002 book by the cognitive psychologist Steven Pinker, in which the author makes a case against tabula rasa models in the social sciences, arguing that human behavior is substantially shaped by evolutionary psychological adaptations. The book was nominated for the 2003 Aventis Prizes and was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize.
no surprise. all we can do is ignore, or continue to point it out.
MG meanders some and makes some generalized statement and a whole posse comes after him in attack mode.He dodges deflects and hopes to survive and any hope of a conversation on the subject matter drowns.He is close to being the only representative of a point of view of significance to this board (an actual Mormon believer).One could wish he wouldn't get tangled up but I see little point in the gang attack.
no surprise. all we can do is ignore, or continue to point it out.
MG meanders some and makes some generalized statement and a whole posse comes after him in attack mode.He dodges deflects and hopes to survive and any hope of a conversation on the subject matter drowns.He is close to being the only representative of a point of view of significance to this board (an actual Mormon believer).One could wish he wouldn't get tangled up but I see little point in the gang attack.
Or he could just stop lying in all its forms, Huck. He’s been doing this shtick for over twenty years, and people are sick of his crap.
He is close to being the only representative of a point of view of significance to this board (an actual Mormon believer).One could wish he wouldn't get tangled up but I see little point in the gang attack.
I also wish M.G. wouldn't get tangled up, but it's obviously hard for him keeping track of all of his lies.
M.G. in real life is definitely not what most people would call an actual Mormon believer.
"I'm on paid sabbatical from BYU in exchange for my promise to use this time to finish two books."
I haven’t read any of his writings since I was going to BYU and studying the development of language in a children’s linguistics class of some sort. Around forty five years ago or so.
Regards,
MG
It's interesting that M.G. 2.0 read Steven Pinker in 1978 (45 years ago) at BYU. According to Wikipedia, Pinkers very first book was published at the end of 1984.
Um, M.G.?
Did he write articles before he wrote books? If not, then it was post BYU. But it seems like it was during my time there. If it was, it would have to have been articles in other publications.
It seems like I may have read book of his, but if that’s so it would have been one written back in the eighties.
I’m thinking that some of my exposure may have been through class instruction and reading assignments.
Anyway, if you have a need push this farther, feel free, but that’s about all I can get out of a forty year memory.
no surprise. all we can do is ignore, or continue to point it out.
MG meanders some and makes some generalized statement and a whole posse comes after him in attack mode.He dodges deflects and hopes to survive and any hope of a conversation on the subject matter drowns.He is close to being the only representative of a point of view of significance to this board (an actual Mormon believer).One could wish he wouldn't get tangled up but I see little point in the gang attack.
what you may not be aware of are the execrable attacks on posters here that Mentalgymnast has engaged in for an extremely long time. as one example, there was a well respected and universally liked poster, now passed away, who was open about his in real life and posted his research, including papers accepted at various places and invitations to speak. Mentalgymnast was relentlessly vicious FOR YEARS AND YEARS in his stalking of this person and his degradation of their work, apparently because his research went against mg's assumptions about the 'rightness' of Mormonism. Most here did everything possible to protect this person, but MG 2.0 never stopped. i am not surprised at all that multiple people now object to mentalgymnast's continued disingenuousness, after all the damage he caused.
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It's interesting that M.G. 2.0 read Steven Pinker in 1978 (45 years ago) at BYU. According to Wikipedia, Pinkers very first book was published at the end of 1984.
Um, M.G.?
Did he write articles before he wrote books? If not, then it was post BYU. But it seems like it was during my time there. If it was, it would have to have been articles in other publications.
It seems like I may have read book of his, but if that’s so it would have been one written back in the eighties.
I’m thinking that some of my exposure may have been through class instruction and reading assignments.
Anyway, if you have a need push this farther, feel free, but that’s about all I can get out of a forty year memory.
Regards,
MG
"I'm on paid sabbatical from BYU in exchange for my promise to use this time to finish two books."
I don’t doubt that you think so. We all find humor in different places and for many different reasons. Some find joy and pleasure through finding fault and ridicule. They find it entertaining when others are not able to remember things with great detail and alacrity.
Go figure. Human nature, I guess. But it can be overcome, in this case, if you have the will.
