MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:15 am
Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:01 am
…you're doing exactly what you said Doc is doing: you're trying to score points. You listen only up to the point that you think you hear something you can refute. You never make any effort to understand.
Look in the mirror bub.
For your information, understanding doesn’t mean acceptance in all instances. Although in a few posts along the way I've had a healthy respect for your position and why you come at certain things the way you do.
Abortion, for example. You actually went into some depth. That helped me appreciate your point of view, although I don’t accept it.
It has been a learning experience to try and understand where a person of your background and personal biases is coming from.
I am moderately literate and fully understand the difference between "understand" and "accept." I don't expect you to accept the sole claim I have been arguing throughout this thread: your statements about what "secularists" believe and the existential threat you claim they pose is based on nothing other than personal bigotry.
I did something up thread that I commonly do when I think someone doesn't understand my position, argument or belief: I ask them to describe what my position, etc. says. It's a very simple and straightforward question. The answer lets me know if they understand. You got exactly one thing right: the trivial, agreed fact that I don't believe in God. You only tried to add one other sentence and you botched it. That tells me that you don't understand. More than that, after all the discussion we've had in this thread, I think it's fair to say that anyone who was interested enough to listen would have been able to come up with a description, even if it got some things wrong.
Abortion was fairly easy for me, because it is a relatively contained subject. And where I come out isn't particularly complicated. In contrast, what I have to say about Law and Order would fill volumes.
So, what do you think my personal biases are and where do you think I'm coming from?