How many months passed after learning and discussing Boylan's Nygren claim before it occurred to anyone at this site that it was racist? The issue of Peter Pan's identity was discussed over a period of months without anyone expressing belief that Nygren was the actual author of the blog. Apparently, no one here noticed this ever so serious example of racism at the Boylan made his claim or for months afterword.
Dr. Scratch wrote:You raise some important points here, Dr. Robbers. *Does* Boylan personally know Richard? At this point, the best outcome for the Mopologists is that there really is a Black Latter-day Saint apologist named Richard Nygren who runs the "Neville-Neville Land" blog. Because if this turns out to be a lie, then not only will it be yet another act of Mopologetic dishonesty, but it will have the added problem of being a sort of Mopologetic "minstrelsy," where they pretended to be Black in order to escape criticism.
"If, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
And right on cue, the DARVO kicks in. Mike claims victimhood status:
- Doc
Crying victim? Yes. DARVO, not really, as "exmormons" aren't the real "victims."
Fair enough. I was using DARVO as a shortcut for ‘playing the victim and going into attack mode when caught and confronted about poor behavior’. The notion that Mike “Peter Pan” Parker would actually threaten to sue ‘internet trolls’, especially after being the trolliest shitball troll of them all is really something. There should be a term for that sort of thing. Hrm … he pulled a …
Mopology? Mopology v. - The act of getting out of a sincere and heartfelt apology by acting like a victim, and then attacking the person or persons who brought your bad behavior to light.
Crying victim? Yes. DARVO, not really, as "exmormons" aren't the real "victims."
Fair enough. I was using DARVO as a shortcut for ‘playing the victim and going into attack mode when caught and confronted about poor behavior’. The notion that Mike “Peter Pan” Parker would actually threaten to sue ‘internet trolls’, especially after being the trolliest shitball troll of them all is really something. There should be a term for that sort of thing. Hrm … he pulled a …
Mopology? Mopology v. - The act of getting out of a sincere and heartfelt apology by acting like a victim, and then attacking the person or persons who brought your bad behavior to light.
- Doc
Yeah, there should be a word.
he/him we all just have to live through it,
holding each other’s hands.
How many months passed after learning and discussing Boylan's Nygren claim before it occurred to anyone at this site that it was racist? The issue of Peter Pan's identity was discussed over a period of months without anyone expressing belief that Nygren was the actual author of the blog. Apparently, no one here noticed this ever so serious example of racism at the Boylan made his claim or for months afterword.
Dr. Scratch wrote:You raise some important points here, Dr. Robbers. *Does* Boylan personally know Richard? At this point, the best outcome for the Mopologists is that there really is a Black Latter-day Saint apologist named Richard Nygren who runs the "Neville-Neville Land" blog. Because if this turns out to be a lie, then not only will it be yet another act of Mopologetic dishonesty, but it will have the added problem of being a sort of Mopologetic "minstrelsy," where they pretended to be Black in order to escape criticism.
I stand corrected. You did indeed point out the potential for a sort of "Mopologetic minstrelsy." Was the "R" word ever used to describe this incident before Parker was identified as PP?
he/him we all just have to live through it,
holding each other’s hands.
Thank you for the evidence that Mike had no problem denying other claims of who he was when that was a white person. Only when it was a Black man does Parker see no ability to deny the claim he is that person. Weird.... But that will be helpful.
Peter Pan/Mike Parker wrote:It’s been a source of much amusement for me the last few days to watch “Doctor Scratch” and his cohorts flail about aimlessly trying to determine my true identity and coming nowhere near the mark.
This isn't the remark of someone who's in any way concerned about letting people mistakenly think that he's Black and from Alabama. He thinks it's *funny*, in fact!
It is humorous to see how confident Russell and Parker are about knowing your identity. LOL!
do we know the moment boylan removed nygren from show synopsis?
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I stand corrected. You did indeed point out the potential for a sort of "Mopologetic minstrelsy." Was the "R" word ever used to describe this incident before Parker was identified as PP?
so, the actual R word, and before march 6, 2023 9 pm. a pretty restrictive request, but here's a couple from the record:
10/22
...DCP has rightly been taken to task for racism before—most notably for posting lynching photos. So, is this his attempt at redemption? Remember: Boylan and Smoot are claiming that a Black man is running “Neville-Neville Land.” The other option is that DCP is covering for some exceptionally disgusting racists. Someone should ask him (or Smoot, or Boylan) about this on their various blogs.
3.Stephen Smoot is Linked to "Neville-Neville Land" and a Racist Cover-Up
... So, why the antipathy, then? The answer came in the form of a rather strange and obsessive blog called "Neville-Neville Land," which was overseen by "Peter Pan."
...Meanwhile, a YouTube video surfaced, during which Robert Boylan interviewed budding Mopologist Spencer Kraus, and on the video, Boylan announced that "Neville-Neville Land" is operated by a Black man named "Richard Nygren," who, Boylan claims, is "one of the only African American apologists in the Church." Is this true? If so, no one has been able to find a shred of evidence that Nygren exists, and all the signs still point to Smoot being the main author of "Neville-Neville Land." If it's *not* true, though, it means that the apologists have attempted to blame a cartoonish smear blog--aimed at one of their own fellow Latter-day Saints, no less!--on a made-up Black man. If this is the case, it would represent arguably *the* most ugly incident of racist behavior in the entire annals of Mopologetics.
on the other hand, I don't see how an accusation of racism can't be valid after Parker was identified, because isn't that the point? Specifically appropriating another race to hide behind--If I recall correctly someone referred to it as digital blackface--- is what makes this racist. knowing Boylan did it, and that Parker, among others let it stand, is what makes this racist. it was suspected for a long time, but the proof is there.
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do we know the moment boylan removed nygren from show synopsis?
did you check tom's posts?
Looked came seem to find this
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Mike Parker has gone into my old place of employment and has demanded I take down my Facebook post claiming my is borderline libel. And That I need to issue a retraction and a apology. He Claims I called him a racist which I didn't do.
I am curious about where Robert Boylan on this clip gets the information that
he says Richard Nygren "is one of only a few African-American apologists; he lives in Birmingham, Alabama"?
and where does he get that Richard Nygren is the persona behind https://www.nevillenevilleland.com/ ?
I noticed that Boylan has revised his show notes to remove reference to Brother Nygren. Of course, he hasn’t edited the podcast.
