I never spoke with him about his business dealings

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Taking the Brietbart article at face value...

Let's say that the text originated from Hunter's phone. Let's say that Joe Biden was sitting right there next to Hunter. Let's take it even further than Brietbart, and assume that Joe Biden actually composed the text himself. What, exactly, did private citizen Joe Biden, who held no political office, do that was illegal here?
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What, exactly, did private citizen Joe Biden, who held no political office, do that was illegal here?
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:23 pm
Taking the Brietbart article at face value...

Let's say that the text originated from Hunter's phone. Let's say that Joe Biden was sitting right there next to Hunter. Let's take it even further than Brietbart, and assume that Joe Biden actually composed the text himself. What, exactly, did private citizen Joe Biden, who held no political office, do that was illegal here?
My favorite is when people say things like - "So, as American citizens, shouldn't all of us at least take a brief pause from our political allegiances and desire the truth wherever that truth leads? In my opinion, not wanting to look into and/or even consider the allegations being made against Joe Biden would be stupid on steroids"... And then turn around and claim that Adam Schiff definitely should have been censured for considering the allegations against Donald Trump, an investigation that led to over 30 indictments or guilty pleas and a presidential impeachment. "stupid on steroids" for sure, right-wing propaganda rotting boomer brains...

Im anxiously waiting for an answer to your question as well...I'm sure these sharp legal minds are going to jump in and detail the crimes he may have committed that we need to consider.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:23 pm
Taking the Brietbart article at face value...

Let's say that the text originated from Hunter's phone. Let's say that Joe Biden was sitting right there next to Hunter. Let's take it even further than Brietbart, and assume that Joe Biden actually composed the text himself. What, exactly, did private citizen Joe Biden, who held no political office, do that was illegal here?
Well what if Donald Trump were taking gifts from Russia or China right now? How would you view that?
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:00 am
Well what if Donald Trump were taking gifts from Russia or China right now? How would you view that?

Just another day in Trumpland.
A Reuters review found that at least 63 individuals with Russian passports or addresses have bought at least $98.4 million worth of property in seven Trump-branded luxury towers in southern Florida …
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/sp ... -property/
The Trump Organization Planned To Give Vladimir Putin The $50 Million Penthouse In Trump Tower Moscow.

During the presidential campaign, Michael Cohen discussed the matter with a representative of Putin’s press secretary, according to two US sources.
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/an ... -putin-the
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canpakes wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:50 am
ajax18 wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:00 am
Well what if Donald Trump were taking gifts from Russia or China right now? How would you view that?

Just another day in Trumpland.
A Reuters review found that at least 63 individuals with Russian passports or addresses have bought at least $98.4 million worth of property in seven Trump-branded luxury towers in southern Florida …
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/sp ... -property/
The Trump Organization Planned To Give Vladimir Putin The $50 Million Penthouse In Trump Tower Moscow.

During the presidential campaign, Michael Cohen discussed the matter with a representative of Putin’s press secretary, according to two US sources.
...
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/an ... -putin-the
Buying property from Trump is not a gift. Even the gift to Putin was so that Trump could sell more real estate. The Russians got valuable real estate for their money. That's not even close to the same as the Biden family business where there is no discernible consideration for any of the large bags of cash other than the fact that Joe Biden was either a senator, Vice President, or Presidential candidate. And yet we're supposed to believe that Ukraine, China, and Romania ultimately got nothing of value for their money and continued to give more just because they love the Biden's that much.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:54 am
That's not even close to the same as the Biden family business where there is no discernible consideration for any of the large bags of cash other than the fact that Joe Biden was either a senator, Vice President, or Presidential candidate. And yet we're supposed to believe that Ukraine, China, and Romania ultimately got nothing of value for their money and continued to give more just because they love the Biden's that much.
Let’s recap:
You can’t identify the nature of the conversation,
You can’t identify the subject of any supposed transaction,
You can’t identify the value of any supposed transaction,
You can’t verify that any transaction was completed,
You can’t identify the extent or depth of Joe Biden’s ‘influence’ or gain,
… and Hunter was a private citizen regardless, as was Joe no longer VP nor President.

What you’ve got is a tirade about ‘bags of cash’ … that no one has ever seen or seems to know anything about.

Do you have anything you’d like to present beyond that? Because now would be a great time to do so.
Buying property from Trump is not a gift.
When the buyer is paying above market price to him or his immediate family for no discernible reason, or is bailing out a failed acquisition, it can be.

Another example is Kushner’s 666 5th. Avenue property. Some interesting reading at the link below, regarding details of Kushner’s dealings with Middle Eastern ‘friends’:

https://www.justsecurity.org/69094/time ... se-policy/

… And, at one time, trying to get Chinese conglomerate Anbang to help him out with the same building, with terms seen as ‘extremely favorable’ to Kushner while he was working in the Administration:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39429240.amp

Not that such a deal couldn’t also have been interpreted as the Chinese buying a bit of influence with the Trump's, right?
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:00 am
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:23 pm
Taking the Brietbart article at face value...

Let's say that the text originated from Hunter's phone. Let's say that Joe Biden was sitting right there next to Hunter. Let's take it even further than Brietbart, and assume that Joe Biden actually composed the text himself. What, exactly, did private citizen Joe Biden, who held no political office, do that was illegal here?
Well what if Donald Trump were taking gifts from Russia or China right now? How would you view that?
Well what if the color triangle tastes like the number purple, eh? What then?
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:27 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:00 am
Well what if Donald Trump were taking gifts from Russia or China right now? How would you view that?
Well what if the color triangle tastes like the number purple, eh? What then?
Trump was taking gifts WHILE PRESIDENT you nimrod. Saudis would rent out entire floors of his hotels at double the rates and then not even use them. That's textbook money laundering. And you didn't give a damn. The Saudi's giving Trump's daughter's family $2 billion alone is nothing more than a huge thank you for all the favors they did for them. LIterally everything you're trying to assert with Hunter Biden, we already know to be true x10 with Trump's family, and you don't give a crap.
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Vēritās wrote:
Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:22 am
LIterally everything you're trying to assert with Hunter Biden, we already know to be true x10 with Trump's family, and you don't give a crap.
Nope. Pretty sure it’s more like 1500x - 2500x in the least.

Just the difference between what the entire Biden family reportedly took in as private citizens from alleged deals with China - a total of $1.3 million over two years (2015 - 2017) - was not even 1/1500th of what Jared took in from his single deal with the Saudis and their investment in Kushner’s private equity firm.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05 ... udi-arabia

Think about those numbers for a bit, and then factor in the other billions that also rolled in to the Trump family before, during and after his presidency. ; )
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