Nuance Hoe claims missionaries now using bait-and-switch "we're Christian" tactics

[Kishkumen]

“One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.”

Oh the irony…

That’s not the same thing, IHAQ.

[Kishkumen]

Umm, well, everyone has different standards. Duh.

Non sequitur, you idiot.

[drumdude]

Kish, respectfully:

Shipps, a Methodist scholar who was the first non-Mormon to serve as president of the Mormon History Association, proposed that Mormonism should be seen as a “new religious movement.” The relationship of Mormonism to Christianity, she argued, is much like the relationship of Christianity to Judaism.[4] In each case there are both continuities and discontinuities.

In offering that picture, Shipps was clearly suggesting that Mormonism is a different “faith” than Christianity. Mormonism shares much in common with Christianity, of course, just as Christianity shares much in common with Judaism. But they are, as Shipps made her case, different religions. This seemed to sit well with the Mormon academics who admired Shipps’s work. Her placement of Mormonism outside of the broad Christian household certainly provoked no outcry from her Mormon colleagues.

I don’t think the position is bigoted. It is not applying different standards to different sides. It was held by a president of the Mormon history association for heavens sake.

https://rsc.BYU.edu/let-us-reason-toget ... s-dialogue

[Moksha]

From NuanceHoe's testimony:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/46nRBPRE4Rw

[Kishkumen]

I don’t think the position is bigoted. It is not applying different standards to different sides. It was held by a president of the Mormon history association for heavens sake.

https://rsc.BYU.edu/let-us-reason-toget ... s-dialogue

Shipps is speaking as a scholar and friend to Mormonism whose opinion carries a lot of weight. She is not an anti-Mormon or critical ex-Mormon accusing the LDS Church of deceiving others by “pretending to be Christian.”

Still, I don’t agree with her. Mormonism IS Christian. It may not be Nicene Christian or Evangelical Christian, but it IS Christian. Those who say it is not, no matter how respected or how well intentioned, are incorrect.