It's 8 million people who have come in illegally since Biden took office. As soon as they get one toe on American soil, the US is stuck with an enormous amount in legal bills, childcare, etc. I'm saying don't even let them get a foot on our soil. But since liberal New York and Chicago try to tell us we can't do that, then they need to pony up and put their money where there mouth is. By liberal logic they should be thanking Abbot and DeSantis for sending them these mass creators of wealth they claim these uneducated, unskilled, impoverished, and illiterate illegal immigrants to be. Can't you find anyone else to work graveyard shift at the slaughterhouse than 7 year old illegal immigrants? Is your social security check really that important?Gadianton wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:41 amSteuss's links seem pretty solid -- do you have a better data source?Ajax wrote:Gadianton do you buy into any of this?
Reference please. But why do they need to bring in future voters when Democrats can rig voting machines so easily? Or do you admit all that is a lie?Democrats have purposefully left the border wide open in hopes of legalizing these people and getting them registered to vote.
Right, you can make up whatever you want.there's probably 5 more you didn't even see.
https://www.cato.org/blog/border-wall-didn't-workThe wall that Nancy Pelosi refused to fund because she said it was "Immoral," would have helped this and saved a lot more money for the taxpayer.
From the beginning, the border wall was somewhere between a political stunt and a scam. I have no idea if this is true or not, but my right-wing friend this very morning was complaining about illegals cutting through the wall with a Sawzall.
Again, where is your reference? I tried to do your research for you but couldn't find your claim. I did find this:The fact is that we've had at least 10 million people that we know about cross this border under Biden.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... migration/
A major problem you have Ajax, is that you seem to be a very feeling-oriented person who is easily riled up and without an interest in facts. It seems to me as long as your leaders say the anger-backed words that inspire you, then they can do no wrong. What they actually accomplish doesn't matter.The Democrats are an open borders party that represent the interests of the immigrants, not American citizens. Anyone who wants the border enforced is Hitler according to the leftist elite.
My pro-Trump friends from my previous job became pro-Trump during the backdrop of our company stabbing its employees in the back (at behest of Mitt Romney) and outsourcing. The lying and scheming that goes into this sort of effort is unreal. I could understand to a degree the draw to Trump, after all, the one friend had even written a Republican congressman (a RINO), blasting him for doing nothing when he had (apparently) promised to do something. I followed this issue as it came up during Trump's presidency, and he did nothing. He balked at one point, but then caved to big business. Somehow, these folks got lost in the campaign energy and trolling, and have totally forgotten to hold Trump accountable for the main thing they needed him for.
Here, let me help you and the right-wing out a bit. I'm not nearly as well-informed as Steuss, Veritas, and Res, but there is a potential serious criticism of the Left and the border problem, and I'm curious how they answer it.
Every time I've looked, I've seen nothing to indicate Biden is soft on the border. Steuss's sources are about what I've assumed to be the case. However, what are the factors driving the border crisis, anyway? It's one thing to say Biden is as tough as anybody, not letting people in. But, why the record numbers piling up at the gates in the first place? I've understood a big part of that is in the rhetorical war between Reps and Democrats, Democrats are sending the signal that they are the party of mercy, and when Biden won, that sent a big signal that chances are good to walk right on in, even if it wasn't the case. Every time DeSantis pulls a stunt and sends immigrants packing, and a liberal shows up to find a place for them, it sends a false hope to tens of million hopefuls who leave their homes and undertake a huge amount of danger for a chance that never was. And so, it's possible that Democrat messaging is in effect causing more human suffering than Trump, as expectations were lower under Trump and only the most desperate willing to take the risk.
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Huck if Joe Biden loved his son Hunter or his brother Jim, why would he run for president? Had he not been president his son would have never come under scrutiny and would likely never have been charged for tax fraud or illegal gun crimes.huckelberry wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:49 pmAjax with many probably over a hundred million liberals in the country I am sure there are some crackpots, phonies, criminals and lunatics include in the group. There is even a father who still loves his wayward wreck of a son.
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Wait. So now, you’re mad at Biden for not trying to shield his son from the consequences of his own activities?ajax18 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:49 pmHuck if Joe Biden loved his son Hunter or his brother Jim, why would he run for president? Had he not been president his son would have never come under scrutiny and would likely never have been charged for tax fraud or illegal gun crimes.huckelberry wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:49 pmAjax with many probably over a hundred million liberals in the country I am sure there are some crackpots, phonies, criminals and lunatics include in the group. There is even a father who still loves his wayward wreck of a son.
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According to who? I found the 8 million claim on Fox News with no reference. (big surprise)Ajax wrote:It's 8 million people who have come in illegally since Biden took office
According to the New York Post, it's 3.8 million.
https://nypost.com/2023/09/21/shocking- ... ok-office/
According to the same New York Post article, you are wrong.Ajax wrote:As soon as they get one toe on American soil, the US is stuck with an enormous amount in legal bills, childcare, etc.
Could you please provide the data Fox News used to obtain the figure that 8 million have come here and are still here taking advantage of the legal system and childcare; healthcare etc?NY Post wrote:1.5 million sneaked in and are still here
I ask because I'm pretty sure the New York Post would love to be provided with the correct data, which is several times more shocking than the data they currently have. Shock is their bread and butter just like Fox, after all.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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The attitude of the Venezuelan migrants says it all. You can see it as they throw away the rations provided them by the liberal largess of New York and Chicago. Given that they chose socialism in Venezuela, they bring with them that same attitude of, the taxpayer owes me a high standard of living. The economic results of socialism in their own countries has taught them nothing.Gadianton wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:04 pmAccording to who? I found the 8 million claim on Fox News with no reference. (big surprise)Ajax wrote:It's 8 million people who have come in illegally since Biden took office
According to the New York Post, it's 3.8 million.
https://nypost.com/2023/09/21/shocking- ... ok-office/
According to the same New York Post article, you are wrong.Ajax wrote:As soon as they get one toe on American soil, the US is stuck with an enormous amount in legal bills, childcare, etc.
Could you please provide the data Fox News used to obtain the figure that 8 million have come here and are still here taking advantage of the legal system and childcare; healthcare etc?NY Post wrote:1.5 million sneaked in and are still here
I ask because I'm pretty sure the New York Post would love to be provided with the correct data, which is several times more shocking than the data they currently have. Shock is their bread and butter just like Fox, after all.
Gad why don't you go find me the data on which races pay what percentage of the tax in this country. Surely the government has it and has no reason to conceal it from the public. Can you post it for me?
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If anyone still believes Ajax doesn’t post on Stormfront any more they’re delusional.ajax18 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:24 pmThe attitude of the Venezuelan migrants says it all. You can see it as they throw away the rations provided them by the liberal largess of New York and Chicago. Given that they chose socialism in Venezuela, they bring with them that same attitude of, the taxpayer owes me a high standard of living. The economic results of socialism in their own countries has taught them nothing.Gadianton wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:04 pmCould you please provide the data Fox News used to obtain the figure that 8 million have come here and are still here taking advantage of the legal system and childcare; healthcare etc?
I ask because I'm pretty sure the New York Post would love to be provided with the correct data, which is several times more shocking than the data they currently have. Shock is their bread and butter just like Fox, after all.
Gad why don't you go find me the data on which races pay what percentage of the tax in this country. Surely the government has it and has no reason to conceal it from the public. Can you post it for me?
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