Imwashingmypirate wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 10:59 pm
You aren't the only person that shares responses from A.I. to assist in conversation. But this is the first time I've personally seen someone get upset about it.
Meh. No one is upset. When others have used A.I. here, it's been to laugh at and call attention to the goofiness of the whole thing. But that's not MG's approach.
MG doesn't want to take responsibility for expressing his own opinion, so he typically links to books he hasn't read or websites that contain phrases he used in a google search. A.I. is his latest formulation. When you ask him what he thinks, he poses the question to A.I. and posts the answer. It's not his answer or his opinion; it's something he doesn't have to really own. And if you challenge it, he'll disclaim it as not his words.
Notice that, earlier in this thread and before his A.I. kick, when MG posted about Viktor Frankl and nobody replied, he complained about it. So, I responded to it by talking about Frankl. He dropped it like a hot potato and moved on to something else. He doesn't really want to discuss. Now he's posting lists generated by A.I. and asking for responses.
When I asked what percentage of free will he thinks we all possess, he posted this:
MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 6:56 pm
As a lead in I will post this comment from Pi A.I.:
Within the realm of quantum mechanics, indeterminism provides a possible avenue for free will because it suggests that not all events in the universe are determined by prior events or conditions. Instead, some events appear to be truly random, or at least unpredictable.
If our brain processes, particularly those involved in decision making, are influenced by quantum processes, then it's possible that there is a level of uncertainty or randomness that could allow for genuine free will.
In essence, the inherent unpredictability of quantum mechanics could provide a source of "noise" that allows us to make decisions that are not fully determined by prior events or conditions, thus enabling free will.
We can see that free will is regulated by conditions set upon it. But there is room for real choices. All have free will, per se, to a greater or lesser degree. I referred to Victor Frankl earlier. No one here responded in regards to his expertise in psychiatry and his horrific experiences in the concentration camps. His writings seem to demonstrate that even under extreme conditions free will is operative and different people will respond to input/stimuli in different ways.
What accounts for that?
The free will that is available to anyone person is I’m sure based upon a multiplicity of factors. Nonetheless, free will is there. It is intact. You and I…well, I can’t speak for you, I suppose…have the blessing/inherent ability of being able to exercise greater choice and have the faculties that let us have a wider range of emotions, abilities to process information, and societal conditions (among other factors) that allow us a significantly increased ability to exercise free will than those that are limited and/or constricted to a lesser degree of free will, whether in thought or action.
Honestly, I find it somewhat sad that there are those that are blessed to a greater degree in regards to free will and will then use their agency to cast off or negate that very gift they’ve been given. But that’s the very nature of free will. It reminds me of the old aphorism of where much is given, much is expected. I think that applies to those of us (again, I can’t speak for you) that have been given much in the way of opportunities to exercise a great degree of agency and choice.
And then come out and say that they really don’t. They are hostage to their neurons.
...which is an A.I. response to different question that MG had asked his A.I. buddy about 'free will' and 'quantum mechanics.' He followed this with some gibberish expounding on A.I.'s answer to that different question. None of it had anything to do with the question I asked.
A.I. is, in some ways, a perfect medium for MG. It usually doesn't give quite the same answer twice, it's bland and often mealy-mouthed, it's frequently inaccurate, and it doesn't deal well with complex questions.