The Immunity Decision

[Jersey Girl]

Some one could tell Biden to act in an official capacity and exile Trump out of the country and off the Presidential ticket for life.

You mean as in unilaterally vote him off the island?

[Philo Sofee]

We all have lost, since there will be no brakes on the upcoming Trump rule.

He could even (if he wins) declare an official act of eliminating a Supreme Court Justice (by whatever means) for making a ruling against something he wants, and packing the court to be absolutely iron clad 100% Don Trump Supreme Court, and FOLLOW HIS LEAD OR BE ELIMINATED. Talk about the Constitution hanging by a thread! With the Mormons loving the pussy grabber, the good news, I suppose, is, Joseph Smith's prophecy won't come true. The Mormon Elders won't step in to save the Constitution, they will be on the front lines destroying it with their favorite almost Jesus liar, all the while screaming they are building up the Kingdom of God.

[Philo Sofee]

Some one could tell Biden to act in an official capacity and exile Trump out of the country and off the Presidential ticket for life.

You mean as in unilaterally vote him off the island?

No. Militarily take him off the island, out of the country, and take all his property and assets, and arrest anyone who tries to help him in any way financially, if he tries to get back in. If it's an official act, he could do that. That would definitely be one way to win the election....ayiyi. Things are more ugly than I ever imagined it could be.

[Res Ipsa]

No.

Why not? Where have I gone wrong?

The first step of the analysis: Is shooting some rando on 5th Ave. an official act of the President? Is executing American citizens without benefit of trial by jury an official act of the President? The courts, not the President, make that determination.

[Kishkumen]

I suppose the GOP would be in for a big surprise if Joe Biden managed to use his official acts to remain in office after he loses the election. It won’t happen, and the GOP knows it, and that is one reason they are comfortable handing a loaded weapon to Trump to finish off the Republic. Biden will take the same loaded weapon and lock it in a gun case. Trump will happily use it and declare his patriotism in blowing the Republic’s head off.

[Res Ipsa]

We all have lost, since there will be no brakes on the upcoming Trump rule.

He could even (if he wins) declare an official act of eliminating a Supreme Court Justice (by whatever means) for making a ruling against something he wants, and packing the court to be absolutely iron clad 100% Don Trump Supreme Court, and FOLLOW HIS LEAD OR BE ELIMINATED. Talk about the Constitution hanging by a thread! With the Mormons loving the pussy grabber, the good news, I suppose, is, Joseph Smith's prophecy won't come true. The Mormon Elders won't step in to save the Constitution, they will be on the front lines destroying it with their favorite almost Jesus liar, all the while screaming they are building up the Kingdom of God.

Philo, today's decision does not put any weight on what the president declares to be an official act. The Supreme Court stated the definition of an official act, and the courts -- not the President -- get to decide what is and what is not an official act. Nothing in today's decision would support the notion of allowing the President to unilaterally usurp power that Constitution expressly gives to Congress, such as removing a Supreme Court Justice or changing the number of Justices on the Supreme Court.

[Moksha]

Some one could tell Biden to act in an official capacity and exile Trump out of the country and off the Presidential ticket for life.

You mean as in unilaterally vote him off the island?

Biden in 2024 would never do that, but young children today will rue the day when an orange man with mutant powers to control the minds of the venal was able to become Autarch and have his head preserved in The Jar.

[honorentheos]

I debated which thread to post this in, leaning towards the thread formerly questioning when Republicans lost their moral compass. But it's most directly on topic here:

https://www.youtube.com/live/7hv3lEmfrs ... -O9CwglWmI

TL;DR: President Biden comments on the ruling, calling it a dangerous day for our democracy before saying he, with Sotomayor, dissents from the imbalance of power it causes.

Character.

[Kishkumen]

Exactly. Character. Donald Trump lacks it to such a degree that he is deeply dangerous. Thomas lacks it to the degree that he is dangerous. Fortunately, Thomas is one of nine. Unfortunately, DJT could be the head of a massively powerful executive branch that Supreme Court has effectively unleashed in important and dangerous ways.

[Moksha]

The first step of the analysis: Is shooting some rando on 5th Ave. an official act of the President? Is executing American citizens without benefit of trial by jury an official act of the President? The courts, not the President, make that determination.

The Justices asked that question of Trump's lawyers and were answered yes, that Trump was so empowered. They then granted him carte blanch. We are talking about Trump, not some idealized situation envisioned with rose-colored glasses. Tyrannical power granted in perpetuity.