Biden needs to step aside

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yellowstone, I think you have slipped into a quite exaggerated picture of Biden's mental condition. I see no reason to doubt that he can do the job.

I do not think the US is in the position to negotiate a treaty between Ukraine and Russia. We could pressure Ukraine to accept the invasion but they are not doing that willingly.
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“ceeboo” wrote: Fine. He is not well and that reality has nothing to do with stuttering. It is obvious. To pretend otherwise does not serve President Biden or this country.
Old age is the degenerative disease all old people suffer with. You are not a doctor. You don’t play a doctor on tv. You have not examined Biden with that kind of expertise. You are completely unqualified to conclude much of anything based on a video. Conservative outlets have spent lots of effort editing Biden videos in deceptive ways. You ought to be a little less eager to draw conclusions based on what you are bringing forward here.
Ohhhh! It's the source of the video and not the contents of the video.
Well, of course, it is, ceeboo! Are you not aware of how the cable news networks deceptively edit videos to make politicians look bad? They all do it! Where have you been?

Tell me that you did in fact know about this. I am not eager to accept any video “evidence” from an ideologically slanted cable news show.

Yikes! :shock:
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I wish you had left that post up, ceeboo. I was not calling you a propagandist, unwitting or otherwise. I was thinking of other posters whose approach and views differ from yours.
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yellowstone123 wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:29 am
Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:20 am
Why do you think hammering out a treaty requires a 10 hour sit down meeting?
The Camp David Accords took 13 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Davi ... ber%201978.
Yes they did...in 1978. Before Zoom meetings existed. :roll:

Are you not aware how world leaders communicate in 2024?

You are missing the obvious fact that there would indeed be post-diplomatic effort preliminary meetings via Zoom meetings and conferences leading up to the actual signing of a treaty.

I'm no genius and even I know that. We've seen evidence of this repeatedly.
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huckelberry wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:51 am
yellowstone, I think you have slipped into a quite exaggerated picture of Bidens mental condition. I see no reason to doubt that he can do the job.

I do not think the US is in the position to negotiate a treaty between Ukraine and Russia. We could pressure Ukraine to accept the invasion but they are not doing that willingly.

How could Ukraine accept the invasion when the invasion itself was already a violation of the Budapest Memorandum? Zelensky doesn't strike me as one who would willingly roll over and play dead and accept the current invasion in order to get to a negotiated finish line.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:52 am
“ceeboo” wrote: Fine. He is not well and that reality has nothing to do with stuttering. It is obvious. To pretend otherwise does not serve President Biden or this country.
You ought to be a little less eager to draw conclusions based on what you are bringing forward here.
I'm not eager to draw conclusions, but I do think, as an American, I should be allowed to express concern about the mental capacity of our President. Should we not all have that allowance? Are you concerned at all?

Why does it seem like President Biden is off limits? Are we allowed to express concern about other political figures?
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yellowstone123 wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:39 am
Kishkumen wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:32 am
You brought the video thus titled forward as evidence that Biden is unwell. The stuttering is a lifelong issue that many mentally capable people have. So, maybe you want to reconsider your ability to judge his wellness based on the video?

Sky News is practically FOX.
Really? This video shows Biden in 2019 sharp as a tack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVd6tNcCV3M
I already posted that earlier in the thread.

Here he is today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w9AiHx6Zrk
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ceeboo wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:10 am
I'm not eager to draw conclusions, but I do think, as an American, I should be allowed to express concern about the mental capacity of our President. Should we not all have that allowance? Are you concerned at all?

Why does it seem like President Biden is off limits? Are we allowed to express concern about other political figures?
Have I impeded your ability to express your concern? Or is it instead the case that I have questioned the supposed evidence you have shared? Why are you equating my disagreement with you as a disallowance of some kind, as though I were able or believed myself to be able to disallow you to express your concern?
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I will say this:

I think anyone who advocates that Biden should step aside is being unrealistic. And, honestly, the end of democracy and the Republic is a much bigger deal than Biden possibly being replaced by Harris sometime in the second Biden term. The latter pales in comparison to the threat of Trumpism.

People can have very poorly considered priorities.
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Re: Biden needs to step aside

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Kishkumen wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:19 am
ceeboo wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:10 am
I'm not eager to draw conclusions, but I do think, as an American, I should be allowed to express concern about the mental capacity of our President. Should we not all have that allowance? Are you concerned at all?

Why does it seem like President Biden is off limits? Are we allowed to express concern about other political figures?
Have I impeded your ability to express your concern? Or is it instead the case that I have questioned the supposed evidence you have shared?
Fair enough - I withdraw the video - Forget the video. Forget my suggestions about Biden.

I am sure you watched the debate (no editing - no trickery - no teleprompters) - Did that concern you at all?
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