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Christian Right Upset About Trump Platform
I heard they were upset because he's trying to distance himself from Project 2025. Even he knows it's loser policy.

When will the Christian Nationalists understand nobody else gives a crap about their nonsense except to the degree that it "F"s over this country? What makes them outrageously stupid?

Hmmm... what could it be...?
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Binger wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:18 pm
I read before I start typing. I also read what I type and I also continue to read after I type.

Trump does not want a federal abortion ban, that is not on the GOP thingamajig. Trump prevailed over some folks with a different opinion than his. Trump wants closed borders and he wants to deport people who break the law to get here. Looks like he won on that negotiation.

In contrast, Biden wants open borders, mass migration and to allow non-citizens to vote for him. Vote accordingly, orotund buddy.
Do we have unrestricted open borders today?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:45 pm
Binger wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:18 pm
I read before I start typing. I also read what I type and I also continue to read after I type.

Trump does not want a federal abortion ban, that is not on the GOP thingamajig. Trump prevailed over some folks with a different opinion than his. Trump wants closed borders and he wants to deport people who break the law to get here. Looks like he won on that negotiation.

In contrast, Biden wants open borders, mass migration and to allow non-citizens to vote for him. Vote accordingly, orotund buddy.
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Do we not have open borders today?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:45 pm
Do we have unrestricted open borders today?
As long as the right-wing media ecosystem asserts that Biden wants these things, that is all some folk need to parrot the message.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:53 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:45 pm
Do we have unrestricted open borders today?
As long as the right-wing media ecosystem asserts that Biden wants these things, that is all some folk need to parrot the message.
And Mormon Discussions and the open borders with people crossing a lot. There is that too.
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Binger wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:45 pm
And Mormon Discussions . . . .
I had no idea Bill Reel was so important!
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
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Kishkumen wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:15 pm
Binger wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:45 pm
And Mormon Discussions . . . .
I had no idea Bill Reel was so important!
Touche. Well played.
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I'm a Christian and I have no problem with the President's platform on the issue, which is to send the question back to the states where it belongs.

The fact that the leftists on this board can continue to claim that we don't have open borders when their leader Nancy Pelosi called walls immoral as she halted any effort whatsoever to curb the tide of illegal immigration and the importation of third world poverty into the US is almost as big a lie as the lie they've been telling us about Joe Biden being fit, mentally competent and free of cognitive decline. And many people still believed these mainstream media lies as evidenced by their shock at Biden's performance at the debate.

Then there's the lie that Donald Trump wants to take away your social security. Perhaps if you're an illegal immigrant and drawing it illegally, then yes, President Trump doesn't want you coming into the country leaching off the taxpayer. If you work for a living, not under the table, but as a legal citizen and taxpayer, you need to vote for Trump. If you're in the country illegally or come from a long line of generational welfare, or seek to bring more people in illegally, and have a black market construction business where you pay people under the table, or perhaps pay your illegal immigrant housekeeper or gardner under the table, or your entire staff in your business like Veritas does, then yes, you need to vote Democrat regardless of who the nominee is. If your idea of compassionate Christlike service is to be generous with other peoples money while you dedicate your long retired unemployed self to recreation, vacationing, and travel, than you need to vote for Biden. And whether you believe the scamdemic and subsequent $12 trillion in "infrastructure" and useless environmental spending cause inflation or not, you're still going to be paying for it the next time Democrats get in power and do this, so in this case you still need to vote for Trump. Blaming greedy corporations for it won't change what's left in your bank account.

The idea that Donald Trump doesn't care about his supporters or isn't loyal to them is such a feeble attempt to separate them from his base. The man has lost over a billion dollars in deep state law suits and many who worked on his campaign are now political prisoners. All of this because they had the audacity to speak up for the rights of taxpaying American citizens who believed that the voters had the right to set the terms upon which people are allowed to immigrate to their country. They want to imprison anyone who believes the worker/earner is the one who has the right to decide how much of his paycheck he gives away to charity, not the welfare recipient nor any random foreigner! Why would Donald Trump sacrifice life as a billionaire to protect the interests of a simple taxpayer like me, or to protect our borders and our right to private property? He could have had a great end to the rest of his life playing golf. Now he's lost over a $1 billion dollars and likely to spend the rest of his life in prison because he stuck up for his supporters and took on a fight with Democrats that none of us alone were strong enough or wealthy enough to do for ourselves.

Weissman put Manafort in solitary confinement for years in an effort to torture him enough to bear false witness against Trump. Michael Flynn was bankrupted and imprisoned by Jim Comey in an effort to squeeze him to take down Trump. Now Steve Bannon sits in prison as Democrats rejoice, for a man who once called him "Sloppy Steve Bannon." Peter Navarro sits in prison as well. Roger Stone's house was raided. Justice Kavanaugh and Thomas are in partisan Democrat crosshairs for death threats, unpunished partisan protester harassment outside their homes. If you think that Trump's position on abortion being a state or federal issue, is going to be enough for his supporters to throw away all this sacrifice and the number of martyrs and political prisoners that have been made already, you are obliviously unaware of what your side has done already. Your partisan political persecution and lawfare has created more solidarity amongst America First movement than even Trump himself ever could have.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:31 am
I'm a Christian and I have no problem with the President's platform on the issue, which is to send the question back to the states where it belongs.

The fact that the leftists on this board can continue to claim that we don't have open borders when their leader Nancy Pelosi called walls immoral as she halted any effort whatsoever to curb the tide of illegal immigration and the importation of third world poverty into the US is almost as big a lie as the lie they've been telling us about Joe Biden being fit, mentally competent and free of cognitive decline. And many people still believed these mainstream media lies as evidenced by their shock at Biden's performance at the debate.

Then there's the lie that Donald Trump wants to take away your social security. Perhaps if you're an illegal immigrant and drawing it illegally, then yes, President Trump doesn't want you coming into the country leaching off the taxpayer. If you work for a living, not under the table, but as a legal citizen and taxpayer, you need to vote for Trump. If you're in the country illegally or come from a long line of generational welfare, or seek to bring more people in illegally, and have a black market construction business where you pay people under the table, or perhaps pay your illegal immigrant housekeeper or gardner under the table, or your entire staff in your business like Veritas does, then yes, you need to vote Democrat regardless of who the nominee is.

The idea that Donald Trump doesn't care about his supporters or isn't loyal to them is such a feeble attempt to separate them from his base. The man has lost over a billion dollars in deep state law suits and many who worked on his campaign are now political prisoners. All of this because they had the audacity to speak up for the rights of taxpaying American citizens who believed that the voters had the right to set the terms upon which people are allowed to immigrate to their country. They want to imprison anyone who believes the worker/earner is the one who has the right to decide how much of his paycheck he gives away to charity, not the welfare recipient nor any random foreigner! Why would Donald Trump sacrifice life as a billionaire to protect the interests of a simple taxpayer like me, or to protect our borders and our right to private property? He could have had a great end to the rest of his life playing golf. Now he's lost over a $1 billion dollars and likely to spend the rest of his life in prison because he stuck up for his supporters and took on a fight with Democrats that none of us alone were strong enough or wealthy enough to do for ourselves.

Weissman put Manafort in solitary confinement for years in an effort to torture him enough to bear false witness against Trump. Michael Flynn was bankrupted and imprisoned by Jim Comey in an effort to squeeze him to take down Trump. Now Steve Bannon sits in prison as Democrats rejoice, for a man who once called him "Sloppy Steve Bannon." Peter Navarro sits in prison as well. Roger Stone's house was raided. Justice Kavanaugh and Thomas are in partisan Democrat crosshairs for death threats, unpunished partisan protester harassment outside their homes. If you think that Trump's position on abortion being a state or federal issue, is going to be enough for his supporters to throw away all this sacrifice and the number of martyrs and political prisoners that have been made already, you are obliviously unaware of what your side has done already. Your partisan political persecution and lawfare has created more solidarity amongst America First movement than even Trump himself ever could have.
Trump is the symptom of populism, not the creator. He is taking the hits because he can. He is also an a-hole, but this is a consolidations of Americans not a mass following behind a leader.

If Trump picks Tulsi for VP the populism movement will begin the next bridge.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:31 am
The man has lost over a billion dollars in deep state law suits …
Do the crime, pay the fine. Sounds fair, right?

Besides, you and your friends have already covered more than a billion dollars of his tax credits and write-offs taken to cover his long list of failed real estate gambles. And that doesn’t seem to indicate that he ‘cares about his followers’ any more so than being held accountable for sexual assault and fraud.
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