Trump attempted assassination at Rally Today?! He was bleeding

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Kishkumen wrote:To be frank, when radical right wing Republicans refuse to take steps to increase gun safety in the aftermath of the slaughter of many children by a deranged gunman, and this kind of event happens over and over again, but those NRA donations are just too important in the GOP to save the lives of future kids, that Donald Trump was grazed by a bullet is not going to move me to great emotion, except fear at how his followers will react.
You are absolutely right and I stand with every comment you've made in this thread 100%, except for your comment that he was grazed by a bullet. One of the Rumble still shots even had an obviously fake trail of smoke going right by his ear. He was struck by a piece of glass -- the shooter missed wildly. Who knows if he was even aiming. Recently, an NRA guy was arrested by the FBI for plotting a shooting in order to incite "civil war", you know, the thing right-wing media is preaching 24-7 to their followers is going to happen soon so go get a gun and be ready.

Now that it's happening, now that a 20-year-old Republican agent of the Deep State has fired the first shot, Rumble is telling its fans to stand down, and don't take the bait.

Today is little different than two days ago, and so folks on both sides should remain as relatively calm as their side allows. If anything, this shows how absurdly ridiculous right-wingers and Project 2025 are calling for armed guards in schools or armed teachers, or whatever. Remember Atlantic Mike insisting grandparents go to school with guns to protect the kids?

Trump literally got what the best security in the world was capable of delivering. Sure, the hole will be tightened up going forward, hindsight is 20-20, and when you've just got to protect one guy, it's doable. Protecting millions of kids in schools is not doable, no matter how much hindsight there will ever be. This just shows how even the world's best security isn't good enough to protect a single person from the vast proliferation of guns that are literally designed to kill people, and nothing else. It doesn't matter why the security failed for this argument, any of the factors including corruption that went wrong in this security detail will go wrong more in the far more impossible job of protecting schools.
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Gunnar wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:31 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
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Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20 years old from Bethel Park, PA. Republican.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS_wI0-HngQ
I'm not at all surprised that the shooter turned out to be an extremist, registered Republican. I thought from the beginning that this was more likely than that it was a Biden supporter.
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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:57 pm
Kishkumen wrote:To be frank, when radical right wing Republicans refuse to take steps to increase gun safety in the aftermath of the slaughter of many children by a deranged gunman, and this kind of event happens over and over again, but those NRA donations are just too important in the GOP to save the lives of future kids, that Donald Trump was grazed by a bullet is not going to move me to great emotion, except fear at how his followers will react.
You are absolutely right and I stand with every comment you've made in this thread 100%, except for your comment that he was grazed by a bullet. One of the Rumble still shots even had an obviously fake trail of smoke going right by his ear. He was struck by a piece of glass -- the shooter missed wildly. Who knows if he was even aiming. Recently, an NRA guy was arrested by the FBI for plotting a shooting in order to incite "civil war", you know, the thing right-wing media is preaching 24-7 to their followers is going to happen soon so go get a gun and be ready.

Now that it's happening, now that a 20-year-old Republican agent of the Deep State has fired the first shot, Rumble is telling its fans to stand down, and don't take the bait.

Today is little different than two days ago, and so folks on both sides should remain as relatively calm as their side allows. If anything, this shows how absurdly ridiculous right-wingers and Project 2025 are calling for armed guards in schools or armed teachers, or whatever. Remember Atlantic Mike insisting grandparents go to school with guns to protect the kids?

Trump literally got what the best security in the world was capable of delivering. Sure, the hole will be tightened up going forward, hindsight is 20-20, and when you've just got to protect one guy, it's doable. Protecting millions of kids in schools is not doable, no matter how much hindsight there will ever be. This just shows how even the world's best security isn't good enough to protect a single person from the vast proliferation of guns that are literally designed to kill people, and nothing else. It doesn't matter why the security failed for this argument, any of the factors including corruption that went wrong in this security detail will go wrong more in the far more impossible job of protecting schools.
So, you think that the shooter was not even trying to assassinate Trump, only trying to incite the "civil war" that the extreme, right-wing media wants to happen? Is that right?
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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:57 pm
Kishkumen wrote:To be frank, when radical right wing Republicans........
You are absolutely right and I stand with every comment you've made in this thread 100%
When I woke up this morning, I felt like I was swimming in an ocean of total darkness, and no matter where I looked, I couldn't find a source of light. I am very uncomfortable posting at the moment - I am dizzy and can't seem to gather my focus/balance.

Having said that, I will post this while being in total darkness and being personally stunned: As I read this thread, I am very discouraged and saddened. I hope that this thread does not reflect the majority of Americans. If it does, we are all fu-ked!
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ceeboo wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:31 pm
Gadianton wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:57 pm


You are absolutely right and I stand with every comment you've made in this thread 100%
When I woke up this morning, I felt like I was swimming in an ocean of total darkness, and no matter where I looked, I couldn't find a source of light. I am very uncomfortable posting at the moment - I am dizzy and can't seem to gather my focus/balance.

Having said that, I will post this while being in total darkness and being personally stunned: As I read this thread, I am very discouraged and saddened. I hope that this thread does not reflect the majority of Americans. If it does, we are all fu-ked!
Ugh. I feel that. I remember when Trump openly wondered if “ ‘Second Amendment People’ Could Act Against Hillary Clinton”. Karma is, sadly, ironic at times.

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No thank you. Did you mention January 6 to soothe your own feelings or to try to rationalize voting for the guy that repeated the debunked fine people hoax and suckers hoax in his dementia debate?
I mentioned January 6 because the young man was a Republican and donated to a Progressive cause on January 20th.
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What did Don Jr. post after Paul Pelosi was attacked? A picture of underwear and a hammer, saying he had his Halloween costume ready.

Nancy Pelosi condemned the political attack on Trump.

One of these things is not like the other.
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Kishkumen wrote:
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Binger wrote:
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No thank you. Did you mention January 6 to soothe your own feelings or to try to rationalize voting for the guy that repeated the debunked fine people hoax and suckers hoax in his dementia debate?
I mentioned January 6 because the young man was a Republican and donated to a Progressive cause on January 20th.
In an open primary state. Stop it Kish. Just stop.
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No, that's not what I think, I have no idea what the motive was. My main point has been there are several possibilities, and whichever coalesces into the truth doesn't matter that much. In a world where anyone can pick up an assault rifle at Walmart and school violence is like "been there; done that," it's only a matter of time before somebody tries to differentiate themselves by other means.

Yes, I did mean to say that the facts are consistent with that interpretation but I do not believe that interpretation. We may never know, but then again there may be some clues yet to come so let's just see.
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I hope we can pull back, but it feels like the rhetoric and discussion has crossed the rubicon, and I will point to January 6th as when it went from rhetoric to much more.
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