The Political Impact of Failed Assassination

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Re: The Political Impact of Failed Assassination

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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:36 pm
The fist pump and chanting “fight, fight, fight” seemed like an implicit call to fight fire with fire.
it was absolutely the strategic move. And there was no time. I mean, this was pure impulse.
How is it possible for you to completely contradict yourself in the same sentence? Bizarre!
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ceeboo wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:27 pm
I know! Did you see him fake going down after the bullet hit his head? What a drama queen!
What an odd reaction, ceeboo. I specified what I thought was troubling.
That's exactly what I thought too! I am pretty sure he was calling for people to shoot Biden in the head.
The most straightforward interpretation of the chant is a violent response offered when Trump had no idea exactly what motivated the attack. Fight what exactly? Fight whom?

From what we have learned now about the killer, it is unlikely that he had anything to do with Trump’s usual betes-noire: Democrats, liberals, immigrants. He was a conservative Republican and a gun enthusiast.

So how does his chant land in light of that information?
I know - Can you imagine such nonsense! A believer speaking about a lunatic murderer as wickedness and then pretending to invoke a Creator as a potential reason that the bullet that struck your head didn't kill you.
I expect less inflammatory rhetoric from chief executives. Did Reagan behave like this?
Like many of the social media posts that I have read in the last 12 hours from my fellow American citizens on the political left, I think it was all staged. Obviously, he will use this slightly misfortunate thingy and terribly misuse it in the future.
I am suggesting no such thing.
If you need to ask, you just might have your answer already.
I ask because I want to get feedback from people with differing opinions. Thank you for yours.
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Another note - a person like that shooter should never had access to a firearm like that in the first place.

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How is it possible for yo
In a firefight, a well-trained soldier acts in pure impulse, the impulses are correct, and strategic.

Trump is absolutely a master of playing his character and making the right calls when he's got the spotlight on him. It's baked in. Muscle memory.
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Interesting mentioning the attempted assassination of President Reagan in the article. Even if the assassination attempt of the former President, Donald Trump didn't occur, an article about President Reagan being shot is very relevant. I remember the day when President Reagan got shot, but it was years later that historians and political science professors would study the chaos of what followed. The White House press knew that Reagan was unconscious and in surgery and was not able to make decisions so the press pressed the issue? Who is in charge? And then good ole Al Haig says, "I'm in control." Then people started question if he was really in charge when Reagan was unconscious and in surgery. Today it seems like the press doesn't press the issue as to who is in charge if the current President can't carry out his responsibility like Reagan couldn't from the time he was shot, until doctor's made an assessment and said he was ready.


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Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance, a potential Trump vice presidential pick, said on X shortly after the shooting that Biden’s rhetoric was to blame.
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Myth is misused by the powerful to subjugate the masses all too often.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:43 pm
The most straightforward interpretation of the chant is a violent response offered when Trump had no idea exactly what motivated the attack.
Nonsense! That's the most convoluted interpretation. I have never been shot in the head so I have no idea what state of mind one would be in moments after being shot. I would imagine a terrifying mixture of confusion, shock, and adrenaline. But that's just a guess.
Fight what exactly? Fight whom?
Maybe instead of suggesting things like you did, we can ask the person who said it? I bet he will be asked that question many times very soon. If I had to make a suggestion, I would suggest that he was telling the people who came to support him to not quite - Not to give up. I firmly believe that this is far more likely and rational than your suggestion is. Far more.
From what we have learned now about the killer, it is unlikely that he had anything to do with Trump’s usual betes-noire: Democrats, liberals, immigrants. He was a conservative Republican and a gun enthusiast.
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I will refrain from commenting about his political affiliations and/or his enthusiasm about guns until more time has passed. Just so you know, I have heard things about the murderer that does not jive with what you are stating as fact, but because I don't think it would be responsible, I am not willing to put the information out there this soon.
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Are you talking about a donation to ActBlue when he was 16 or 17?

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Why will this boost Trump in the polls?

Because of comments like what one sees in this forum. Choose ye this day whom you will believe, crazy or reality. Many folks are getting red pilled by the media/debate, Hitler BS, and anti-Christian anti-American crazy crap.
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