The Political Impact of Failed Assassination

[Kishkumen]

Nonsense! That's the most convoluted interpretation. I have never been shot in the head so I have no idea what state of mind one would be in moments after being shot. I would imagine a terrifying mixture of confusion, shock, and adrenaline. But that's just a guess.

Not convoluted at all, ceebs. It is the most economical interpretation. “Fight” is a violent word. At times like that, the most basic character of a word is the one that matters most. His first impulse is aggression. That came out very clearly.

Maybe instead of suggesting things like you did, we can ask the person who said it? I bet he will be asked that question many times very soon. If I had to make a suggestion, I would suggest that he was telling the people who came to support him to not quite - Not to give up. I firmly believe that this is far more likely and rational than your suggestion is. Far more.

You think he knows? I don’t. I think it was a primal performance to show strength by being aggressive in the most straightforward way possible. Trump is always fearful of looking weak, so he performs strength to hide his fear and weakness.

I will refrain from commenting about his political affiliations and/or his enthusiasm about guns until more time has passed. Just so you know, I have heard things about the murderer that does not jive with what you are stating as fact, but because I don't think it would be responsible, I am not willing to put the information out there this soon.

OK. I am just going by what his associates have said to reporters. These are not careless fabrications but data points. They may end up not being right, but there is not a lot that I have yet seen to contradict his Republican affiliation.

[Kishkumen]

In a firefight, a well-trained soldier acts in pure impulse, the impulses are correct, and strategic.

Trump is absolutely a master of playing his character and making the right calls when he's got the spotlight on him. It's baked in. Muscle memory.

Indeed. Trump is a performer. He has mastered his role over the years, and he is able to use it well to compensate for his fundamental deficiencies.

[Kishkumen]

I wasn't going to post this - I don't think it matters that much, I was just making a reply to Kish - I understand that everything I am going to post might turn out to be false, especially in the world we live in today. Here is what I have heard:

He has never voted in a President election in his life (He just turn 18 two years ago) - His mom/dad are registered D and I - In 2021, at age 17, on Biden's inauguration day he made a donation on ActBlue ($15.00 confirmed by the federal election commission - earmarked for the progressive turnout project working to elect Biden) - So it seems in 2021 he was a Biden supporter. Later that year, upon turning 18, he registered as a Republican. Can't explain this?

As I said, I am not suggesting these are facts. I believe it's wise to wait for developments to develop.

OK, ceebs. I have heard that before. One of his peers remembers him consistently taking the conservative side of debates against the liberal majority. Others say he was a nice, quiet kid who helped people who were struggling in math and science. It is deeply sad what happened to this kid, and that is the most importantly fact about him: he was a kid. He was probably confused and troubled. Unfortunately that led him down a very dark path to take his own life and a heroic father’s life. Honestly, I don’t think his political affiliation means all that much. Others will seek to use it for their own ends, but I think the fact that he was a troubled kid who did a horrible thing is most salient.

[ceeboo]

“Fight” is a violent word.

It can be, but it isn't always.

If I told my married daughter that I think she should fight for her marriage - don't give up. Is that violent? Is it reasonable to think that this is exactly what Trump was telling his audience?

You think he knows? I don’t. I think it was a primal performance to show strength by being aggressive in the most straightforward way possible. Trump is always fearful of looking weak, so he performs strength to hide his fear and weakness.

Lol - I'm not laughing at you, kish, I am laughing with you because I have no response to this Freudian talk.

[ceeboo]

Trump is absolutely a master of playing his character and making the right calls when he's got the spotlight on him. It's baked in. Muscle memory.

Indeed.

Trump is a master of playing his character and making the right calls when he's got the spotlight on him?

He should run for President of The United States!

[Kishkumen]

It can be, but it isn't always.

It signals aggression. Always. Sometimes positively, sometimes not. Given the many incitements to violence that Trump has uttered, “truthed,” or “retruthed,” he has lost the benefit of the doubt with most everyone but his supporters.

If I told my married daughter that I think she should fight . . .

Is your daughter Donald Trump? Are you? Did either of you encourage a mob to storm the Capitol?

Lol - I'm not laughing at you, kish, I am laughing with you because I have no response to this Freudian talk.

Cute. My guess is you don’t know the first thing about Freudian psychology, ‘cause this ain’t that. This is good old fashioned observation of Trump’s behavior.

[High Spy]

Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance, a potential Trump vice presidential pick, said on X shortly after the shooting that Biden’s rhetoric was to blame.

Kristi takes the cake.

Nix Nikki or she be big surprise.

(Speculating spatulas don’t want intel)

An apostrophe is like a comma upside down.

[Kishkumen]

Trump is a master of playing his character and making the right calls when he's got the spotlight on him?

He should run for President of The United States!

It would be really ideal, were it not for the fact that he is:

Amoral
A pathological liar
A convicted felon
A con artist
Largely ignorant regarding the Constitution
Called for the Constitution to be suspended
Unironically described his first day in office in a completely unconstitutional way (dictator only on day one)
Tried to stop the count of electoral ballots in the election he lost by inciting a mob to storm the Capitol
The list can go on . . . and on . . .

[Gadianton]

Sure Ceeboo, the right theatrical calls. The right calls to go viral and cement his popularity. I'm not talking about competency in any capacity other than demagoguery. But by all means, please continue to try and extract something out of my words that I obviously didn't intend.

[ceeboo]

I wasn't going to post this - I don't think it matters that much, I was just making a reply to Kish - I understand that everything I am going to post might turn out to be false, especially in the world we live in today. Here is what I have heard:

He has never voted in a President election in his life (He just turn 18 two years ago) - His mom/dad are registered D and I - In 2021, at age 17, on Biden's inauguration day he made a donation on ActBlue ($15.00 confirmed by the federal election commission - earmarked for the progressive turnout project working to elect Biden) - So it seems in 2021 he was a Biden supporter. Later that year, upon turning 18, he registered as a Republican. Can't explain this?

As I said, I am not suggesting these are facts. I believe it's wise to wait for developments to develop.

OK, ceebs. I have heard that before.

No worries either way - As I have said a few times in the thread already, It doesn't matter to me - I just posted it in response to you.

It is deeply sad what happened to this kid

I am struggling a great deal with responding to this. I think I will just leave it at that.

he was a kid. He was probably confused and troubled. Unfortunately that led him down a very dark path to take his own life and a heroic father’s life. Honestly, I don’t think his political affiliation means all that much. Others will seek to use it for their own ends, but I think the fact that he was a troubled kid who did a horrible thing is most salient.

I am not nearly as comfortable as you are with all of these suggestions and assumptions. Other than an apparent assassination attempt, I know exactly nothing about this 20-year-old man.