A View From the Left

[Dr Exiled]

For those reading this, it is pretty simple. The rich want to get richer and will do anything to get there. At the top of the scale, capitalism doesn't work like Res said in the opening. The ultra rich who contribute to both republicans and democrats want a return and that is through endless war spending since WWII. We've spent trillions on war since 2000 and there is no stopping in sight. They want to attack Russia and got rid of Sanders in order to do it with Biden. Trump is vilified for wanting to stop the Ukraine war. Assange pointed out the endless washing of tax dollars through warzones into the hands of the billionaire campaign contributors and was imprisoned. I think it is easy to see, if you want to.

What are the wealthy united in? Their desire to protect their wealth and acquire more of it. Aside from that, they are not a united block. Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk, for example, have very different political opinions. The uniparty is a metaphor, not a literal organization.

Stop clutching your blankie. Get rid of the pacifier. Of course there isn't a literal uniparty organization.

[Kishkumen]

1. Give me a break. I guess you won.

So, no evidence. Thanks for conceding the truth.

2. We have continual, almost unanimous agreement from both parties when it comes to war spending (a boon for the ultra wealthy) and a huge part of the budget every year. If that isn't evidence of agreement, I don't know what is. Also, take a look at the vote when some idiot actually proposed auditing Ukraine war spending. It was I think almost unanimous against. Go figure. Sure, there are debates on insignificant issues to keep the population satiated, but, when it comes to the important issues, the results always favor the donor class at the expense of the rest of us.

Since I am not an isolationist or a populist, I have no problem with our nation helping Ukraine avoid being swallowed up by Trump's dreamboat Vladimir Putin to add to the reconstructed Russian Empire.

[Binger]

The uniparty is a metaphor, not a literal organization.

Technically speaking, this is true. There is not a registered "Uniparty". Practically speaking, LMFAO.

This argument is the core of why there is a Trump train and growing interest in populism. Almost to a rule, those that are not absolute loyalists to the elite agenda and elite-chosen leaders are derided as anti-American, Christian (used pejoratively), deplorables, ain't-black, uneducated. It is sorta allowed to appear free to choose, but at the end of the day ya better vote like THIS!

Anyone who thinks that McConnell/Pelosi/Graham/Romney/Schumer are not part of the same party ain't paying attention. And anyone who thinks that they are not all looking out for each other before considering the welfare of journeyman not in one of the 15 largest cities is completely gorked.

[Kishkumen]

Stop clutching your blankie. Get rid of the pacifier. Of course there isn't a literal uniparty organization.

Ah, OK. Good. We are getting somewhere. There is no literal uniparty. Thank you. So when you say this metaphorical uniparty "controls us," is that metaphorical too?

[ceeboo]

2. The conspiracy is among the rich to get richer at the expense of the rest of us. They control our politics. They control our economy.

They also control the information flow (as well as information that they decide should not flow) as well as the narratives constructed from the information flow. This has great impact and influence. The strategic intent is for ultimate control, instilling fear, and the manipulation of people.

[Kishkumen]

They also control the information flow (as well as information that they decide should not flow) as well as the narratives constructed from the information flow. This has great impact and influence. The strategic intent is for ultimate control, instilling fear, and the manipulation of people.

Hey, ceeboo. Could you do me a favor and explain who these they are and in what way you think they are controlling the flow of information? From my vantage point I am seeing accessibility to American and non-American media outlets that tend left, right, and center. Some hate Trump. Others love him. So in what way do you think "they" "control the information"?

I appreciate any insight you can offer.

[Binger]

I have no problem with our nation helping Ukraine avoid being swallowed up by Trump's dreamboat Vladimir Putin to add to the reconstructed Russian Empire.

Again, a theory in which you conspire to parrot the talking points.

Sorry Kish. I think I do like you, but damn brother. C'mon.

A journeyman electrician in Wichita or Cincinnati has no spare F's to give for paying or a war in Ukraine. You have a luxury here, he doesn't. Your points, and even your information, may be valid and relevant to globalists and people that benefit from those feelings. A journeyman pipefitter may vote the opposite of you specifically based on your rhetoric and lack of empathy.

Help me out - what in the hell is so complicated about this? Why is it such a threat that a person working in the trades and hoping for a pension would not have the same priorities as you and get sick and tired of the insults?

[yellowstone123]

[...] Donald Trump and Hitler are not even in the same universe. [...]

While Hitler occupies a special, and specific sphere of monstrosity, which Trump doesn't even come close to, I think it's worth noting that the head of the American Nazi Party endorsed Trump. The first time endorsing a major political party Presidential candidate. This was years before Trump quoted rhetoric from Mein Kampf, or his campaign briefly posted propaganda calling for a "unified Reich." I'm pretty sure the endorsement came early enough that it was even before Trump's campaign's antisemitic adverts too.

What is it that literal Nazi leaders see, and have seen for almost a decade, that others might be missing?

Thanks Doctor Steuss. I always appreciate your thoughts and I'm always open to people pointing out dumb things people say or write that I did not know about.

I say Trump is more like Nixon than Hitler. Nixon is in the same solar system while Hitler is in a different universe. In fact one could say Trump and Nixon are cut from the same cloth and believe they are above the law. But then you have people who are either violent or suggest violence. You have Lincoln Project founder Rick Wilson on MSNBC saying in 2023, "They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump." Then you have some young guy, and who knows what his thoughts are going out and shooting Trump. That's closer to Nazism. And good ole MSNBC invited Rick Wilson back again and again after he advocated shooting Donald Trump.

[Kishkumen]

Technically speaking, this is true. There is not a registered "Uniparty". Practically speaking, LMFAO.

This argument is the core of why there is a Trump train and growing interest in populism. Almost to a rule, those that are not absolute loyalists to the elite agenda and elite-chosen leaders are derided as anti-American, Christian (used pejoratively), deplorables, ain't-black, uneducated. It is sorta allowed to appear free to choose, but at the end of the day ya better vote like THIS!

Anyone who thinks that McConnell/Pelosi/Graham/Romney/Schumer are not part of the same party ain't paying attention. And anyone who thinks that they are not all looking out for each other before considering the welfare of journeyman not in one of the 15 largest cities is completely gorked.

So why do you think that there is still a uniparty when one party is the Trump party? What sense would it make for you to vote for Trump, if he controls much of what must be part of this uniparty? I apologize in advance for not keeping up with this conspiracy theory.

Also, what kind of effective policies do you think Trump will enact that will not continue to benefit the super wealthy? His trillion-dollar tax cut?

[Kishkumen]

I say Trump is more like Nixon than Hitler.

I am curious to know how far you think this comparison goes before it ceases to be useful. I think it is true that Nixon had a scarily robust idea of presidential power, and that he was willing to break the law. The key difference, however, is one of times and context. Nixon's Republican party was one that was a lot healthier. Very few people in his own party, at the end of the day, were willing to tolerate his lawlessness.

Of course, there are many differences that would make me prefer Nixon over Trump any day.

Nixon was not pushing the policies desired by right-wing Evangelical Christianity on the nation.

Nixon was highly intelligent, well educated, and very experienced.

Nixon actually forwarded many policies that would be rejected by the Republican party today for being "liberal."

Nixon was not an isolationist or populist.

Nixon is in the same solar system while Hitler is in a different universe.

Not a different universe, unfortunately; more like different hemispheres of the same planet.

Like Hitler, Trump is a charismatic demagogue who uses fear and lies to manipulate his followers and stir them to action.

Like Hitler, Trump isn't really a traditional politician.

Hitler wrote Mein Kampf; Trump enjoys reading and alluding to it.

Hitler had bad ideas that he enacted in national politics, and Trump has bad ideas that he has enacted and will continue to enact in national politics.

Hitler approved of using violence in politics; Trump approves of using violence in politics, unless it is someone shooting at him.

Hitler stoked hatred toward Jews and other marginalized people; Trump stokes hatred of liberals, Mexicans, Muslims, and other marginalized peoples.

You have Lincoln Project founder Rick Wilson on MSNBC saying in 2023, "They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump." Then you have some young guy, and who knows what his thoughts are going out and shooting Trump. That's closer to Nazism. And good ole MSNBC invited Rick Wilson back again and again after he advocated shooting Donald Trump.

Some young guy with unknown motives shooting at Trump is closer to Nazism than . . . .

No, actually some young guy with unknown motives shooting Trump is almost nothing like Nazism.