Assassination Attempt - Secret Service - DEI

[Binger]

DEI has become the MAGA boogeyman for everything that goes wrong today.

BS!

It's pure grievance theater.

BS!

Attacking DEI every time a woman or a male POC makes a mistake is 100% racist and sexist.

Complete and utter BS!

It takes an incredible amount of stupid to come up with those ridiculous assertions. But then - to post them? As if they were fact?

[Res Ipsa]

Lastly, from the information I have been looking at, it was over 120 seconds that passed. Anyway, maybe a thread will appear discussing this as well as other pieces of relevant information that cause people to blurt out WTF!

I keep trying to remind myself that it's easy for me to armchair. I'll never be faced with the choice of looking at another human being, and making a decision in seconds whether I need to take their life. But, I've also been trained specifically for threat identification and the ability to take a human life.

That said, counting it out (1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi...) really starts to make it absolutely baffling, even getting to 20 seconds.

Seriously, the common practice of mobs of people who have no training or experience second guessing how people act in life or death situations based on a zero pressure viewing of a video is crazy. Leveraging an attempt to kill a political candidate to score political points is a powerful temptation that should be strongly resisted. Didn't we learn anything from jumping to conclusions based on available video in the case of the native drummer and the high school kid?

The House summoning the head of SS for a politically motivated show interrogation is the last thing any serious person would do until the events are as fully understood as they can be.

[Kishkumen]

There are some things I don't understand about the MK commentary. First, it seemed to me that she was pushing pretty hard to be critical of a situation she did not understand. Second, she only had guests on one side of the issue. Third, some of the stuff she lingered on after Trump was in the vehicle seemed gratuitous. How the female agents adjusted themselves after Trump was safely in the vehicle seemed immaterial to me. But it looked like the clip was held out to that length so we could see the three female agents front and center and say something negative about what they were doing.

Also, Donald Trump is very difficult to control. Here is the guy who tried to steer his vehicle to the Capitol on J6 when he was not the driver, against the protocol of the Secret Service, which is to protect the president when the situation is too risky. I think J6's mob breaking into the Capitol qualified as too risky. Here, we see Trump pushing the Secret Service to allow him to make his little Che Guevara pose for the cameras, and I have to say that once again this was the dumbest move. I tend to think that someone would be upset if the Secret Service had stopped him from putting his own life at risk that way, if they had stopped him. That said, they most definitely should have stopped him.

Finally, I just think there are some tasks in this world that are fine to assign according to bio-morphology, or whatever one wants to call it. As far as I am aware, no woman has been able to make it through Navy Seal training. Perhaps there are situations in which bio-morphology should dictate whether a person is eligible for a task. In this Secret Service situation, maybe it would be best to have a bunch of really big guys watching the first family. Why they had a short woman trying to shield DJT is beyond me.

At root, I am pragmatic. Sure, there are things that we can work out if we take the time, make the effort, and really struggle to get just right. But, you know, time is limited, resources are limited, and that includes money. Why in the world are we wasting our time and resources making sure that 30% of the Secret Service is staffed by women? Should it be open to women? Yeah. I can see that. Maybe not short women trying to bearhandle Donald Trump, but I can imagine there would be a role for women in the Secret Service. On the other hand, setting this number and date as though the world would be poorer if only 15% of the Secret Service were staffed with women seems ludicrous to me.

The primary objective should always to be doing the job. Anyone who CAN do the job should should be ELIGIBLE to do the job. It doesn't look to me like the Secret Service is currently doing this. Maybe it is time to reassess their priorities. I think protecting the president and his family is more important than having one third of the Secret Service staffed by women.

[ceeboo]

Seriously, the common practice of mobs of people who have no training or experience second guessing how people act in life or death situations based on a zero pressure viewing of a video is crazy. Leveraging an attempt to kill a political candidate to score political points is a powerful temptation that should be strongly resisted. Didn't we learn anything from jumping to conclusions based on available video in the case of the native drummer and the high school kid?

The House summoning the head of SS for a politically motivated show interrogation is the last thing any serious person would do until the events are as fully understood as they can be.

Seriously - More complete diarrhea being blown from a politically ideological anus.

I am not interested in injecting MAGA or SEXIST or POC into the discussion. If you would like to continue to not consider the elephant in the room, and prefer to focus your thoughts on racist MAGA's, POC, and MOBS, then you can certainly do so. I am not interested. Given the recent attempt to assassinate a former US President, my interest and focus is on other things.

I am interested in having the best qualified people in vital positions like this. Protecting all former US Presidents, as well as the sitting US President in an extremely important and very serious reality.

I am not saying that DEI has had a negative impact on the SS. I am saying that we ought to be able to find out if it did. I think every American citizen should be interested in the results and I think most American citizens would prefer a merit-based system for these positions.

Isn't it about damn time that "we the people" started holding some of these federal institutions accountable and to a level of expectation?

[Binger]

In this Secret Service situation, maybe it would be best to have a bunch of really big guys watching the first family. Why they had a short woman trying to shield DJT is beyond me.

Trump/Pence 2020 had private security at his rally in Carson City, NV. Secret Service was also there. Every roof had SS snipers visible. There were snipers on roofs along the route from Air Force 1 to the event. These were the snipers people could see with guns on tripods. Obviously, there were plenty that were not visible.

The dudes working for the private security group were giants. They looked like a combination of NFL and NBA players. A few were former WWF dudes. They were security and part of the show. They were enormous. Clearly, Trump had a preference for that type of security. How that changed for this rally where shorty McSchoolLunch Lady was hiding behind him, is a question that will linger for a long, long, long time.

[Kishkumen]

The House summoning the head of SS for a politically motivated show interrogation is the last thing any serious person would do until the events are as fully understood as they can be.

Agreed. I am tired of Congressional theater, which has the primary purpose of allowing reps to grandstand for their constituents and donors.

[Binger]

The House summoning the head of SS for a politically motivated show interrogation is the last thing any serious person would do until the events are as fully understood as they can be.

Agreed. I am tired of Congressional theater, which has the primary purpose of allowing reps to grandstand for their constituents and donors.

uh, uh......... ummm...... mmmmkay. But uh, hmmm. Nope. Can't think of any examples of congressional theater lately. Nothing comes to mind. Not even anything. Nope. Can't even imagine why anyone would be theatric in congress if it has never worked and never been exploited. This is crazy time.

[Binger]

DEI has consequences.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1813290895334383820

This is the final straw.

Because of this law and the many others that preceded it, attacking both families and companies, SpaceX will now move its HQ from Hawthorne, California, to Starbase, Texas.

While the referenced law is not DEI specific, it is all in the family.

[Kishkumen]

uh, uh......... ummm...... mmmmkay. But uh, hmmm. Nope. Can't think of any examples of congressional theater lately. Nothing comes to mind. Not even anything. Nope. Can't even imagine why anyone would be theatric in congress if it has never worked and never been exploited. This is crazy time.

I think it would be better to keep the cameras out, but if you are happy with the results, by all means contact your congressional leaders to make sure it continues.

[Binger]

uh, uh......... ummm...... mmmmkay. But uh, hmmm. Nope. Can't think of any examples of congressional theater lately. Nothing comes to mind. Not even anything. Nope. Can't even imagine why anyone would be theatric in congress if it has never worked and never been exploited. This is crazy time.

I think it would be better to keep the cameras out, but if you are happy with the results, by all means contact your congressional leaders to make sure it continues.

I hate the theater entirely, but if there is a stage for these clowns, shine a light on it and do it in full transparency. Unfortunately, the theater works I think. I was told there was a previous staged theatrical event but, again... scratching my head and chin on this one.