DAR Museum wrote:Maps, like this one of VA over the fireplace mantle in the Virginia Period Room, often decorated walls in homes during the 1700s and early 1800s. Maps could be framed, but more commonly they were attached to wood rollers and hung from small brass rings. People most often hung maps in public spaces like a hallway, parlor, or dining room. [ This is the Fry-Jefferson Map of Virginia first published in 1753 - this Jefferson was Thomas Jefferson's father.]
Daniel Peterson discusses the possibility of Joseph Smith using a map to aid in producing Book of Mormon geography and stumbles upon the truth that ultimately leads to the peninsula of Delmarva:
Dan,
I agree, in order for one to keep all that information straight and in good working order one would need some sort of internal map in their mind or have it be a real map. And remember, north is always north and south is always south! Likewise, west is west and east is east! So, in that vein, suppose Joseph was looking at a map of Mexico and evaluated the geography of the Tehuantepec neck. Do you suppose he would label the Pacific ocean as sea south or sea west? Which one, Dan? Do recall that in the Book of Mormon the narrow neck was in-between sea west & sea east, respectfully, therefore sea south would have no bearing along the narrow neck of the Book of Mormon! Right?
I have no doubt that the author of the Book of Mormon used a map -- consisting of the Delmarva peninsula and the northern lands leading up to the Great Lakes. Everything I have been able to piece together shows how Delmarva fits the bill perfectly in describing the basic landform and how it relates to the flow of what took place in the stories.
How about you, Dan, what do you think of Delmarva?
Relying on Dan, heh? That's a good one.
Dan the Two Cumorah man.
"Internal Map! Internal Evidences! The Book of Mormon has an internal map!"
Dan got that from Dr. John L. Sorenson, who plagiarized from L.E. Hills who died in 1925.
And this yellow map is the source of your "geography of the Tehuantepec neck" - including the West and East Seas.
But Dan didn't you tell you about that. He and F.A.R.M.S. hid their source.
If you were familiar with the content of my threads on Book of Mormon Geography, including this one, you wouldn't ask that question. I suggest you read the threads and come to terms with what I'm proposing in revealing Smith's geography before opening your big mouth:
I’m sorry to say that in my view you don’t have a leg to stand on and your approach is totally illogical. I don’t care (and neither should you) what the rivers were doing 2,000 years ago because Joseph Smith surely didn’t know and science in his day was limited in expressing those things on maps and atlases. All you should concern yourself with is the maps of his day that portray Malaysia -- that is all that matters! Maps of modern times meant absolutely nothing to Joseph Smith! You cannot bring Joseph Smith into the future but we can go back to the past and verify his work. Let me just say that your modern map and the various designations on it are totally useless and have no bearing whatsoever with how Smith interpreted maps available to him. I can assure you that Smith did not utilize Google Maps! So why should we “zoom in” to Google Maps in order to find things Smith never saw?
Google Maps is out of place and out of time. It has absolutely no place in a discussion between two persons who believe the Book of Mormon is fiction. It’s pointless for us to utilize Google Maps when we only need rely on the same information Joseph Smith would rely on. I won’t be taken down a modern rabbit hole on an exercise of futility. I’m sorry, but enough is enough and I won’t be strung along any further.
Joseph Smith did not have Google earth nor did he have the luxury of modern maps we have today. Maps, atlases, and globes available to Smith were from his era or before, some of which were no doubt of vintage date. Certainly, he was familiar with biblical maps and his education in geography was subject to what was available to him.
If you were familiar with the content of my threads on Book of Mormon Geography, including this one, you wouldn't ask that question. I suggest you read the threads and come to terms with what I'm proposing in revealing Smith's geography before opening your big mouth:
I’m sorry to say that in my view you don’t have a leg to stand on and your approach is totally illogical. I don’t care (and neither should you) what the rivers were doing 2,000 years ago because Joseph Smith surely didn’t know and science in his day was limited in expressing those things on maps and atlases. All you should concern yourself with is the maps of his day that portray Malaysia -- that is all that matters! Maps of modern times meant absolutely nothing to Joseph Smith! You cannot bring Joseph Smith into the future but we can go back to the past and verify his work. Let me just say that your modern map and the various designations on it are totally useless and have no bearing whatsoever with how Smith interpreted maps available to him. I can assure you that Smith did not utilize Google Maps! So why should we “zoom in” to Google Maps in order to find things Smith never saw?
Google Maps is out of place and out of time. It has absolutely no place in a discussion between two persons who believe the Book of Mormon is fiction. It’s pointless for us to utilize Google Maps when we only need rely on the same information Joseph Smith would rely on. I won’t be taken down a modern rabbit hole on an exercise of futility. I’m sorry, but enough is enough and I won’t be strung along any further.
Joseph Smith did not have Google earth nor did he have the luxury of modern maps we have today. Maps, atlases, and globes available to Smith were from his era or before, some of which were no doubt of vintage date. Certainly, he was familiar with biblical maps and his education in geography was subject to what was available to him.
GoogleMaps is out of place for the Delmarva Peninsula. Bwhahaa!
According to your logic, the Hill Cumorah in New York should have been eroded into a plain by now.
Yeah Joseph Smith was an ignorant clown - according to your logic. He didn't know the geography of the United States because Lewis and Clark didn't march through Palmyra and the nearby Erie Canal didn't bring any news to his family and neighbors.
You based your nonsense, Shulem, on assumptions which you can't back up.
THANK YOU for your support and congratulations on understanding what I've expressed on this board concerning my views on how Joseph Smith formulated his geographical location to aid him in building his plot and story.
To show my appreciation, I feel a few visual aids are in order. This time I include citations from the original 1830 publication to make a few points on the map.
