Ceeboo's equivalencies

[Res Ipsa]

Ceeboo's false equivalencies continue to fall flat. No Democratic presidential nominee ever refused to concede defeat after all election litigation was exhausted. No Democratic presidential nominee ever whipped up a mob that attacked the Capitol. No Democratic president withheld disaster relief from a state to punish his political enemies. And no Democratic leader has implied defectors from the party should face a firing squad.

Tell me why you are singling out Ceeboo in a response to my OP, please. This thread isn't about fellow posters. It's about my thoughts regarding the impact of election rhetoric on the psychological and emotional well being on well...me. Perhaps others are seeing it and feeling it as well.

It has nothing to do with Ceeboo (false equivalencies or whatever) as an individual so please don't use it as an open door to take shots at him or anyone else on this board.

If you want to direct comments at Ceeboo, stop derailing this thread and feel free to start a thread of your own making and let it devolve into whatever you see fit. This clearly isn't the thread.

Jersey Girl, as this situation differs from our typical derail situation, I’m going to ask for a huddle on this one.

[Dwight]

Trump says a lot of things, he just spouts words. He said lock her up a million times and recently said “it wouldn’t look good, so I didn’t do it.”

I think people have to stop taking what Trump says seriously. Any campaign promise is not a promise. Any threat is not a threat. He says things just because they sound fun to him in the moment.

His actions should be what people vote against. And there’s plenty there to vote against.

So we need to lower our standards in order to be more inclusive. Hold the Democrats to one standard and Republicans to another. I know there are people completely opposed to that idea, but they do seem to make an exception for themselves.

Yes there should be plenty of reason to not vote for Trump, but it’s ridiculous to let the media and people get butt hurt about Biden saying garbage when Trump has said the same and worse.

[canpakes]

Think they’ll get a pardon if he gets back in the oval?

I’m not sure. On the one hand, Trump has nothing significant to lose by doing so. On the other hand, he has nothing to gain from it, either. He may perceive that doing so would be detrimental to his situation after he were to leave office, so I’d put the odds as being slightly in favor of not pardoning all of them, and letting them just sit in jail.

His base will forgive him for not doing so, and will make excuses for it all down the road.

[Jersey Girl]

Tell me why you are singling out Ceeboo in a response to my OP, please. This thread isn't about fellow posters. It's about my thoughts regarding the impact of election rhetoric on the psychological and emotional well being on well...me. Perhaps others are seeing it and feeling it as well.

It has nothing to do with Ceeboo (false equivalencies or whatever) as an individual so please don't use it as an open door to take shots at him or anyone else on this board.

If you want to direct comments at Ceeboo, stop derailing this thread and feel free to start a thread of your own making and let it devolve into whatever you see fit. This clearly isn't the thread.

Jersey Girl, as this situation differs from our typical derail situation, I’m going to ask for a huddle on this one.

Hey thanks, RI. I did turn in a report on this. Here's my take. If a poster wants to call out another poster, they're free to start a new topic thread, put up their evidence, and have at it instead of taking digs at someone who isn't even present on the thread and ends up creating the type of derail I saw when I checked the comments earlier. One stinking OP and bam...the next post is a critical commentary of Ceeboo. I dislike having my thread crapped on by people who don't seem to know where they are even posting.

Ceeboo was not the topic of this thread. Ceeboo didn't appear on this thread until his name was thrown out by Manetho.

My preference as thread starter is to split off the derail before the thread itself devolves into Ceeboo as topic. Lemme know what you guys decide.

[ajax18]

“She’s a radical war hawk. Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK?” the former president said at a campaign event in Glendale with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson. “Let’s see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face.”

There's a significant portion of the Republican party embracing isolationism. I'm not in favor of isolationism because I think global commerce and prosperity is dependent on a strong America willing to do what it takes to keep the shipping lanes open and unencumbered by pirates. But in this case Trump is using the exact same argument Democrats embraced back when they were attacking then Vice President Dick Cheney. Do you remember when Democrats believed GWP should be tried in the Hague for war crimes? Do you remember when Democrats supported isolationism in international affairs. Stop spending money on defense when it could better be spent on welfare! Or the biggest national security threat isn't Russia or China but rather anthropogenic global warming?

Leftists politicians have always stirred up violence with their rhetoric. Whether it's the summer of 2020 BLM riots or people like Maxine Waters, Barack Obama or Corey Booker shouting to get up in the face of anyone who votes Republican and tell them they are not welcome here. It's what they have to do to win elections when their policies produce the kind of economic results we've seen over the past four years. And rest assured that if they lose this election, leftists will engage once again in "mostly peaceful" protests with impunity. Imagine what would happen if Trump were to judge them by the same standard January 6, protesters were judged.

The problem is that ‘just saying things’ has a way of sometimes tipping others into bad actions. If that is what a candidate primarily relies upon in order to gain votes, then that candidate’s words become more than just ‘fun stuff’. They become catalysts for very bad outcomes.

Do you think every Democrat calling Donald Trump Hitler had anything to do with the two assassination attempts thus far? What about Chuck Schumer's violent threats against the Supreme Court for protecting unborn children's right to life? Or what about Steve Scalise being shot by a Bernie Sanders supporter who was stirred up by Republicans stopping Democrats from instituting single payer healthcare and prohibiting the purchase of private medical insurance?

[Gadianton]

Do you remember when Democrats supported isolationism in international affairs.

Yeah, Biden has been doing it the entire time and still doing it. It's kind of inevitable the way things are going right now.

[Moksha]

Trump says a lot of things, he just spouts words. He said lock her up a million times and recently said “it wouldn’t look good, so I didn’t do it.”

I think people have to stop taking what Trump says seriously. Any campaign promise is not a promise. Any threat is not a threat. He says things just because they sound fun to him in the moment.

Good point. Just figure that Trump is a stupid, reckless, and vicious Bozo and forgive what he says. Look at his stupid, reckless, and vicious actions instead.

Except for the Ceeboo portion, I thought Manatheo's comments were germane and supportive of Jersey's point.

[canpakes]

The problem is that ‘just saying things’ has a way of sometimes tipping others into bad actions. If that is what a candidate primarily relies upon in order to gain votes, then that candidate’s words become more than just ‘fun stuff’. They become catalysts for very bad outcomes.

Do you think every Democrat calling Donald Trump Hitler had anything to do with the two assassination attempts thus far?

That’s a good question. An even better one is, why did both attempts seem to be committed by people who seem to have been Republicans?

[Moksha]

[quThat’s a good question. An even better one is, why did both attempts seem to be committed by people who seem to have been Republicans?

They journeyed back from the future?

[Res Ipsa]

Do you think every Democrat calling Donald Trump Hitler had anything to do with the two assassination attempts thus far?

That’s a good question. An even better one is, why did both attempts seem to be committed by people who seem to have been Republicans?

The answer is, not likely. The guy who got a shot off was planning to kill one candidate or the other and Trump drew the short straw. The other appears to have been a R obsessed with Ukraine.

Trump's rhetoric is violent, and he’s turned it to 11. Nine rifle barrels stuck in the face of Liz Cheney? Seriously???

Violent rhetoric gives people permission to commit violent acts that may not otherwise have committed them. But the person triggered could be anyone. There is an element of “live by the sword” that is in play.