Predictions - 2024 Election

[Jersey Girl]

Thoughts on the final results?

I'm Christmas shopping. Go away, Ceebs.

[Jersey Girl]

I just saw the final results:

Electoral votes: Trump 312 - Harris 226

Popular vote: Trump 72,978,296 - Harris 68,340.558

Thoughts on the final results?

All kidding aside, here are my thoughts on the results: A whole lot of folks need to learn what resiliency is.

[ajax18]

Can you name another Republican who got a higher percentage of the black vote or the hispanic vote in recent history? Minorities just like everyone else who has been gaslit on the economy by out of touch leftwing elites over the last four years are fed up with it. You're going to have to come up with something different than the race card if you want to get your power and authority back. Donald Trump has formed a new coalition of working men and women of all races.

It’s amazing how much more accepting of brown people the right has gotten now that it’s realized that there are brown conservatives, too. Hell, Ronald Reagan realized that when he welcomed immigrants from South of the border as assets to America. One of the potential upsides to this election that I see is that the ridiculous notion that Ds want to flood the nation with brown people who will automatically vote for them will be tossed onto the trash heap where it belongs. Having Relief Society dependent on non-white voters to win a national election will be more healthy. (As will the silly Ds that thought demographics is destiny.)

Agreed. Well said. For me it's socialism vs. capitalism and Judeo Christian ethics versus those like Schmo who hate and scoff at faith in God and want God censored and cast out of public policy. It turns out that 46% of hispanics and 20% of black men are on my team and I'm blessed to have them. The days of the elites claiming authority to seize the paychecks of working men and women to pay for the welfare queens and disability hustlers may actually come to an end. It turns out that hispanics and black men believe they hold the right to govern how their own earnings are spent or donated just as much as I do. They don't want to pay for another green new scam either.

[ajax18]

lol. sure. You'll first need to pay for the lawyer to get a waiver in order to clear the unlawful entry, which is a permanent ban from ever coming in legally. They don't hand those out like candy now, and they certainly won't when Trump is president. That is, if they aren't in prison before that, according to Trump's plan to imprison illegals. Legal immigration is nearly impossible for the folks at the greatest risk of getting kicked out, Trump will only make it harder. Your best bet will be to send your wife over to bring them back in her SUV.

But I admire the full circle. You've been complaining for years about illegal immigrants being the real "stolen election" playbook by Democrats who allow people, who in your mind vote blue, but now that Latino men just voted Trump in, your final "stolen election" lie is debunked, and you're stroking your chin at the possibilities: what if there is a way to protect my illegal brothers if they vote Trump once we make them citizens? What if the Republican party could come together and only bring Trump supporters in?

Adding on: I continued to explore my right wing frenemy's situation and he confirmed that wife's grandma and grandpa both entered illegally, and my own prejudice was apparently hard at work because I have only asked about his wife who I know is Mexican (and unhinged Trump); he offered without me asking -- his mom came in illegally on a boat and has all these great stories. So his family exists here 3/4 thanks to illegal immigration. To put the cherry on the top, His wife's mom and dad are the kindest people you'd ever meat, per him, his mom was the best, per him, and his dad, the only US citizen in his line tried to kill him and his brother with a hammer.

How about you Ceeboo? Are you one of these right-wing hypocrites who is here thanks to a parent or grandparent coming in illegally and then because you were born here, you're a citizen automatically -- something else Trump wants to end?

I wonder how many Trump supporters have a US passport? Those who don't, I have to wonder if they can prove they are citizens.

Nobody in my ward is here illegally. Incidentally none of them are on welfare either. And don't think asking our central American bishop for fast offering welfare is easy. As he said, "No vamos a regalarte un pescado sino vamos ensenarte a pescar." I've never had a problem with legal immigration.

If you really hate the idea of deporting illegals or stopping them at the border so much, then you need to just open the border completely and be fair to everyone about it, not just those who have figured out that it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

[Gadianton]

Nobody in my ward is here illegally

So you go from being a willing sponsor to saying they don't need sponsoring just because like any other topic that comes up around here, someone shows you that you don't know the first thing about it. So now that you lost the argument, you just declare that nobody in your ward boundaries could possibly be illegal, and they all have jobs, and none of them are on welfare. lol. k.

If you really hate the idea of deporting illegals

It's looking like Latino men just voted to deport themselves. As the Latino men in your ward once were, the illegal Latino men shall become, should they have the chance, which they may not. The legal men in your ward are only legal because their illegal parents gave birth to them here, a law you folks are set to end. I'm not a liberal Ajax, I'd prefer people not to act self-destructively and I want to help people where I can, but I'm not one to wet my pillow with my tears over outright self-destructive behavior. On my walk path I mentioned there were 5 Trump signs. I knew that spelled trouble, in 2020 there was only 1, and it was a predictable down-and-out Trumper. This time, only one was your beard white guy with two vehicles that barely fit in the driveway. One could be Ceeboo. Two are Latino families, and one (best guess) is Russian.

If Trump is full of crap like drumdude and Dr. Exiled think, then great, we just move on. If project 2025 goes full bore, count me in. I live a "cleaner" life by Christian standards than any Christian man I know that I'm not related to. I can pretend to be Christian. Instead of wasting my time puffing on this board, one possibility is to start my own research projects on Trumpers I suspect may be throwing stones from within glass houses. If I must suffer a dictatorship, those who brought it in my neighborhood will also.

[canpakes]

Nobody in my ward is here illegally.

I will guarantee you that if you have a Spanish-speaking ward at your location, that there are many more of those members than you want to imagine who are not legal citizens.

They’re certainly not going to tell you about their status, though.

Let’s hope that it all works out for them. Community is important, too.

[Gadianton]

Many, many people out there simply don't know for sure if they are really a US citizen or not, nor does the US itself. It's historically been a reality such as your right to free speech, that technically isn't a matter of paperwork. If you were born here, You're a citizen. If you're a child of a person who naturalizes, then you're a citizen (probably). But there is no paperwork that says so in these cases. You can get a birth certificate on the Dark Web pretty easy, which implies that legit birth certificates themselves are questionable. For most of us, it's a ratty piece of paper without any special seals that has your name typed on it that you were born at such-and-such bankrupt hospital. Being a citizen isn't fundamentally a matter of documentation, but as that's the world we're heading into, the best you can do is get a US passport. If you can get that, then whatever you had to get it is enough and you're good. Just renew it and don't let it expire. I just renewed mine this month.

[Kishkumen]

My election prediction thread seems to have gone drastically of course.

Bumping to the OP:

With about two weeks left, what are your predictions?

Mine: Trump wins the electoral college fairly easily (300 plus) and Trump, for the first time in a long time, wins the national majority vote (by a fairly slim margin)

Your predictions?

I just saw the final results:

Electoral votes: Trump 312 - Harris 226

Popular vote: Trump 72,978,296 - Harris 68,340.558

Thoughts on the final results?

The people have spoken. Fascism is here.

[Kishkumen]

Profound sadness and despair that more than half of my fellow American bits of sentient carbon voted for someone who ran his campaign on dehumanization and demonization of other fellow bits of sentient carbon including my family and friends.

29% of eligible voters cast their ballot for Trump, as I understand it. Is that percentage incorrect?

[Some Schmo]

Profound sadness and despair that more than half of my fellow American bits of sentient carbon voted for someone who ran his campaign on dehumanization and demonization of other fellow bits of sentient carbon including my family and friends.

29% of eligible voters cast their ballot for Trump, as I understand it. Is that percentage incorrect?

I interpreted his comment to mean "more than half of American voters."