Is the Book of Mormon Divinely Inspired?

[I Have Questions]

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The Book of Mormon claims to be a translation of ancient gold plates. The Church claims the Book of Mormon is a translation of gold plates. Unequivocally. No more, no less. However, the Book of Mormon contains plagiarised KJV Bible content from 1,348 years after those gold plates were supposedly written. In particular, the people putting the KJV Bible together introduced some incorrect words into it. Why do those erroneous words appear in a book that is claimed to have been written 1,348 years earlier? Where does the Church explain it to the members?

[Marcus]

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Nothing to see here that hasn’t already been talked about. IHQ, I’m not sure what drives you to be here. A form of missionary work?

As a nonmember I would think that you would have other things to do with your life other than hang out on a board dissing the CofJCofLDS.

What’s up with that? The clock is ticking. Time to get along with your life?

As it is, I’ve already said why I’m here when I’m here.

What about you? What’s your purpose?

I would ask the same thing of Marcus. You have a family, right? You have a life I would assume. By the looks of it you are always ready to jump in and respond and be the critic. It’s like you’re always here.

What drives you?

Would you do this if you were a lapsed Catholic and this was a ‘bash Catholicism’ board?...

Now THAT is the cleanest bit of projection I've ever seen on this board. Thank you, mg, for inadvertently answering the question, with your true feelings, of why you post here, and for explaining the source of the hatred and disdain that drive you.

[I Have Questions]

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As a nonmember I would think that you would have other things to do with your life other than hang out on a board dissing the CofJCofLDS.

What’s up with that? The clock is ticking. Time to get along with your life?

Have a look at how many posts you make here, then look at how many I’ve made. Then tell me which of us his neglecting his life in favour of posting here.

Then tell me why the mistakes people made when producing the KJV Bible in the 17th century appear verbatim in The Book of Mormon which is claimed to have been written 1,348 years earlier…

[MG 2.0]

MG wrote-Why would she lie to him?

Well, why not? Joseph was having sex with who knows how many women. If my wife was having sex multiple of men, mostly behind my back, I could certainly see myself lying to my children about their mother, for their sakes alone. And we don't know if she was directly lying to him, for all we know it was orchestrated for reason for the reformed church membership, which is most likely the case with William, but maybe not so much with David.

Emma had a rough life, loosing at least three children early, two more as young adults, her cheating husband at an early age by our standards. She married another who cheated on her, and had a close relationship with his bastard child if I remember correctly (If I recall correctly). I think If I recall correctly, and you can correct me, she was more or less estranged from her Parents. She was punked big time by Brigham. She had to be a business women and liquidate Joseph's assets after his death, deal with two homes and a store, and I think even a river boat If I recall correctly. She had lots (land) in her name in Nauvoo, and being a matriarch to a religion and mother of a prophet. I think lying about Joseph's womanizing made perfect sense, trying to keep and manage all that.

What do you think the Reformed members of her church would think if she, having all that property that Joseph received as a prophet if she said she was married to 30 plus women and sexually active with at least some of them? Remember her church denied he was a polygamous, big time, why would she admit it a few months before her death after denying it all along?

On a board such as this one it is impossible to do a ‘deep dive’ into all of this. You have gone your way and I have gone mine. We both have what we believe to be valid reasons for doing so. At the end of the day we can only shake hands, so to speak, and look at each other as fellow truth seekers and have respect for one another’s beliefs.

I can certainly respect you, and I do, but I don't have to respect LDS teachings, I can't do that. It is okay for you to also reject the teaching of the Christian church, which in fact is doctrinal for a saint to do so....but we can respect each other and talk it out for sure, we have that agency as far as I am concerned. If we can 't disagree with each other and apply critical thought, then we really should not be on a forum like this.

MG wrote....The difference between us is simply that I believe God answered Joseph’s prayer and later called him as the prophet of the restoration and bestowed upon him divine authority and you don’t. I believe that it is true that God calls upon the weak things of the world to do his work. Joseph is an example. It was God who made him great while also setting up a situation by which he would be known for good and evil.

Well the main difference between LDS theology and Christian theology is that LDS theology is centered around man becoming a God, and that God was once a man, and that by good works worthy men can have the same power and knowledge as he does. Christian theology looks as that as blasphemy. Our difference starts there, and with me pretty much end there.

It is not a easy doctrine to admit and deal with, I get that. Let me ask you this, do you believe you have the potential and access to the authority to have all the power, authority, dominion and knowledge as HF and Jehovah? To know everything HF knows and do all the things that he has and will do?

We can hypothesize about why Emma had issues with polygamy and may have found herself in a position of being less than truthful.

But again, what about her testimony of the coming forth of the Book of Mormon, acting as scribe, describing the process, verifying the plates were real, etc. What do you think she had to gain by lying?

I suppose we may have to agree to disagree on this. One thing I suppose we can agree on is that motives matter.

I don’t reject other Christians for being good Christians. Not in the least. I see us as fellow travelers in the sense that we’re trying to follow Jesus. I do believe that the doctrines and practices that resulted from corruption over time (creeds, etc.) cause an insurmountable schism between the original gospel/church and what then morphed into the many Christian sects we see today.

My guess is that you would look at your Catholic brothers and sisters as being mislead somewhat in regards to teachings concerning grace and works. If so, do you see them as being ‘damned’ in a similar way that you might see LDS members being damned for believing in a different Jesus (words I’ve heard from Evangelical folks). How do you know that you’re right and your Catholic brother down the street is wrong?

As a Latter-day Saint I see the Christian world in somewhat of a disarray with varying doctrinal positions and beliefs concerning ordinances, authority, attributes of God, etc. I’ve heard some say that they are all part of the ‘kingdom’. But how can that be when we know that there is only one Lord, one faith, and one baptism? Various churches teach conflicting doctrines. What gives?

But in the same breath let me say that when Christ said that “he that is not against me is on my side”, so to speak, I see that as Him giving credit where credit is due for all those who are part of the ‘kingdom’ in the sense that they are for Christ and not against Him and are trying to be His disciples.

Yes, I believe that God wants His children to become more like Him. Why in the world would He set limits? God will always be God and He will always be our Father but it simply makes common sense, at least to me and many others, that we can become like Him in many respects. Don’t you hope for your children to obtain all that you have and wish a better life for them than what you might have had?

I think the same principle applies. Although truth be told, I think it would take eons of time to be exactly like our Father in Heaven.

But I think Jesus was right on target when He said to become perfect even as He was already perfect. I don’t think He became that way overnight. If He didn’t, did God the Father?

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

You are kidding, right? That's exactly what this board does!

Not by a long shot...

It helps to read what people post, including their links. There is so much to learn. Frequently, one also needs to read what one posts, particularly if one got it from a chatbot and one's chatbot disagrees with the opinions one has previously posted. Just a suggestion.

Seriously, though, there is so much information posted here regularly, across many, many topics. If you honestly don't think a 'deep dive' is done here, I feel bad for you. You miss so much.

You spend a tremendous amount of time here, so why come to a place you despise, only to disparage the discussion and information you encounter? What motivates you to do that? You frequently refer to lurkers, but surely you are aware what a negative impression you are giving them. Your hatred and disdain for those who believe differently than you will only resonate with those who already hate and despise. Do you do this to boost up your ego? Do you do it because you get attention here you can't get in your regular Mormon life?

What motivates you to come here to express your unrelenting disdain for those who believe differently than you?

You have me pegged incorrectly. Not worth responding to the personal attacks and pseudo psychology.

And no, I don’t think a deep dive is gone into on anything other than those things that belong in the ‘antagonism’ category. That which ultimately may lead to lack of faith rather than an increase of faith. That’s my purpose in being here is to show that faith is not dead among many many folks in the world and in particular the LDS Church. Your ‘deep dives’ do nothing to increase faith.

Although, let it be said, some of your behaviors may lead some to question whether atheism is the preferred path.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

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The Book of Mormon claims to be a translation of ancient gold plates. The Church claims the Book of Mormon is a translation of gold plates. Unequivocally. No more, no less. However, the Book of Mormon contains plagiarised KJV Bible content from 1,348 years after those gold plates were supposedly written. In particular, the people putting the KJV Bible together introduced some incorrect words into it. Why do those erroneous words appear in a book that is claimed to have been written 1,348 years earlier? Where does the Church explain it to the members?

I’ve shared my thoughts on this earlier.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Nothing to see here that hasn’t already been talked about. IHQ, I’m not sure what drives you to be here. A form of missionary work?

As a nonmember I would think that you would have other things to do with your life other than hang out on a board dissing the CofJCofLDS.

What’s up with that? The clock is ticking. Time to get along with your life?

As it is, I’ve already said why I’m here when I’m here.

What about you? What’s your purpose?

I would ask the same thing of Marcus. You have a family, right? You have a life I would assume. By the looks of it you are always ready to jump in and respond and be the critic. It’s like you’re always here.

What drives you?

Would you do this if you were a lapsed Catholic and this was a ‘bash Catholicism’ board?...

Now THAT is the cleanest bit of projection I've ever seen on this board. Thank you, mg, for inadvertently answering the question, with your true feelings, of why you post here, and for explaining the source of the hatred and disdain that drive you.

A predictable response. C’mon Marcus, why ARE you here?

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

As a nonmember I would think that you would have other things to do with your life other than hang out on a board dissing the CofJCofLDS.

What’s up with that? The clock is ticking. Time to get along with your life?

Have a look at how many posts you make here, then look at how many I’ve made. Then tell me which of us his neglecting his life in favour of posting here.

Then tell me why the mistakes people made when producing the KJV Bible in the 17th century appear verbatim in The Book of Mormon which is claimed to have been written 1,348 years earlier…

I’ve already said why I participate on this board. Why do you ‘neglect’ other options for the way you spend YOUR time? Are you a missionary of some kind? If so, what are you proselyting for?

Atheism? No thanks bud.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Later. On to other things.

Regards,
MG

[Marcus]

Later. On to other things.

Regards,
MG

The troll trolls, and then trolls away. Nothing new.
And still no answer to the question:

...What motivates you to come here to express your unrelenting disdain for those who believe differently than you?