NBC news story on Hunter Biden

[Markk]

Does this story have the part where Biden and Karine Jean Pierre say they won't pardon Hunter. Now watch Democrats complain that the system is broken when the J6 political prisoners are pardoned. Excuse me Democrats, you broke and dishonored the system, not Donald Trump

He pardoned his son not only for the crimes he was convicted of, and crimes Hunter actually plead guilty to. But also any crimes he "might " have committed in a ten year period.

There's a couple ways of looking at this, by pardoning Hunter he is maybe taking away anything that is found out about him, while looking at Hunter. The other is that he will pardon himself and James in the next month or so.

They can still go after Hunter civilly....but who knows what will happen.

Biden flat out lied on this one, and if Trump does not pardon the J6 folks, he also lied.

[ajax18]

Does this story have the part where Biden and Karine Jean Pierre say they won't pardon Hunter. Now watch Democrats complain that the system is broken when the J6 political prisoners are pardoned. Excuse me Democrats, you broke and dishonored the system, not Donald Trump

Trump pardoned his kids too.

Id love to see Joe ask Kamala not to certify the election results. Tit for tat, no?

Which child of Donald Trump's children got presidential pardons for criminal convictions? Show me the link.

[drumdude]

Trump pardoned his kids too.

Id love to see Joe ask Kamala not to certify the election results. Tit for tat, no?

Which child of Donald Trump's children got presidential pardons for criminal convictions? Show me the link.

That’s right it was just his son in law’s dad. And Roger Stone, who may as well be one of Trump’s kids.

[ajax18]

Does this story have the part where Biden and Karine Jean Pierre say they won't pardon Hunter. Now watch Democrats complain that the system is broken when the J6 political prisoners are pardoned. Excuse me Democrats, you broke and dishonored the system, not Donald Trump

He pardoned his son not only for the crimes he was convicted of, and crimes Hunter actually plead guilty to. But also any crimes he "might " have committed in a ten year period.

There's a couple ways of looking at this, by pardoning Hunter he is maybe taking away anything that is found out about him, while looking at Hunter. The other is that he will pardon himself and James in the next month or so.

They can still go after Hunter civilly....but who knows what will happen.

Biden flat out lied on this one, and if Trump does not pardon the J6 folks, he also lied.

Hunter can't use the 5th amendment if he's subpoened under oath. But until Bondi roots out the partisanship in the DOJ, he's already shown that while congressional subpoenas bankrupt and put Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro in prison, they don't apply to Hunter Biden. He'll just say, I don't recall. Joe and Jim have already been determined by the DOJ as too old and incompetent to stand trial, but not to incompetent to be president right now.

[canpakes]

He pardoned his son not only for the crimes he was convicted of, and crimes Hunter actually plead guilty to. But also any crimes he "might " have committed in a ten year period.
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They can still go after Hunter civilly....but who knows what will happen.

Right. It was a tactically smart move by Biden. Republicans blew 4 years off with clownish investigations of any Biden they could, and ended up with near nothing to show for it, except the spectacle of Marjorie Taylor Green repeatedly trying to display Hunter’s dick pics to Congress.

Now Republicans are denied one of their juiciest targets to waste four more years on, and will have to organize their next set of time-wasting, clownish, and sham ‘investigations’ on less interesting citizens. But I’m sure that they’ll find a way to fill their schedules with those so that they don’t have to do any real work.

Biden flat out lied on this one, and if Trump does not pardon the J6 folks, he also lied.

It’s a poker game. Biden played a hand that pushes Trump closer to having to pardon a thousand whining, petulant anti-democracy rioters and lawbreakers. If he falls for it, that will ultimately be much more damaging to Trump’s legacy than Hunter’s pardon will be to Joe’s.

[Dwight]

I'm not really surprised and I think Biden would not have had there not been the actual weaponization of the DoJ in Hunter's case. He is right that Hunter's case got politicized and influenced by Republicans and stiffer penalties. He was willing to let that stand. Then you look at what Trump's picks have said, and there is no clear cut Democratic nominee to immediately go after, so they are going to keep going after Biden and his son until someone emerges. Even then there was so much about Hunter Biden after Biden stepped down and Harris was the nominee cause she doesn't have that attack surface.

I am so tired though of the false equivalency of "well Democrats went after Trump." Yeah, well we have pretty clear evidence the guy actually has committed crimes, including ones that hurt our country's national security. Take classified docs on both sides, Biden was alerted, he immediately worked with the authorities to have things looked at and searched and handed back over. Whereas Trump hid things, moved them around, refused to cooperate. They didn't get and execute a search warrant first thing at Mar-a-lago, it was the last resort.

[Moksha]

Re Biden played a hand that pushes Trump closer to having to pardon a thousand whining, petulant anti-democracy rioters and lawbreakers.

Trump had already announced that he would be pardoning all the January 6th Insurrectionists during his campaign. He will award the Presidential Medal of Freedom to the head klansmen of the Proud Boys and the Oathkeepers.

[Gunnar]

It’s a poker game. Biden played a hand that pushes Trump closer to having to pardon a thousand whining, petulant anti-democracy rioters and lawbreakers. If he falls for it, that will ultimately be much more damaging to Trump’s legacy than Hunter’s pardon will be to Joe’s.

I hope you're right about that! But I fear that the Republicans will endeavor mightily to rig future elections so that it would be virtually impossible for Republicans to ever lose again, no matter how great the majority of voters who oppose them. As I understand it, some red states have passed or tried to pass legislation that would allow state legislatures to overturn any popular vote they didn't like, no matter what the majority of voters chose.

[Markk]

He pardoned his son not only for the crimes he was convicted of, and crimes Hunter actually plead guilty to. But also any crimes he "might " have committed in a ten year period.
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They can still go after Hunter civilly....but who knows what will happen.

Right. It was a tactically smart move by Biden. Republicans blew 4 years off with clownish investigations of any Biden they could, and ended up with near nothing to show for it, except the spectacle of Marjorie Taylor Green repeatedly trying to display Hunter’s dick pics to Congress.

Now Republicans are denied one of their juiciest targets to waste four more years on, and will have to organize their next set of time-wasting, clownish, and sham ‘investigations’ on less interesting citizens. But I’m sure that they’ll find a way to fill their schedules with those so that they don’t have to do any real work.

Biden flat out lied on this one, and if Trump does not pardon the J6 folks, he also lied.

It’s a poker game. Biden played a hand that pushes Trump closer to having to pardon a thousand whining, petulant anti-democracy rioters and lawbreakers. If he falls for it, that will ultimately be much more damaging to Trump’s legacy than Hunter’s pardon will be to Joe’s.

Apart from investigations against Hunter bringing Joe into it, and, that it is his son. It was just another F-U to his base that threw him under the bus. One thing for sure there will be some interesting books coming out in the 2 or 3 years. And also there is another month and a half left for Joe and Jill to get their revenge.

It will be interesting to see how long this first stage of grief, denial, lasts....like I wrote on another thread you will have plenty of time to bash Trump, 4 years, but at some point you will need to accept just how incompetent Biden was as a president, and that he was never mentally in the position to be president.

https://www.ehab.com/resource/the-stages-of-grief/

[canpakes]

Apart from investigations against Hunter bringing Joe into it, and, that it is his son. It was just another F-U to his base that threw him under the bus.

Mmmnope. I’m not seeing it that way. I’m betting that likely Democratic voters are hardly bothered by this. They’ve seen the last four years of circus investigations by House Republicans, watched Trump pardon criminals at the end of his term and then nominate them for cabinet positions within the incoming term - including extended family - and watched Trump talk about revenge for four years, and Trump’s promotion of characters who are vowing to press bogus prosecutions against anyone just doing their jobs in a way that ran contrary to Trump’s wishes.

One thing for sure there will be some interesting books coming out in the 2 or 3 years.

You may be disappointed.

And also there is another month and a half left for Joe and Jill to get their revenge.

Again, you may be disappointed. in my opinion, It’s a Republican fantasy to conclude that Biden is out for revenge against fellow Democrats (and you can bookmark this post and heckle me later if that proves incorrect, though. : D ). That whole ‘revenge’ mindset is an embedded feature of the incoming President, his Cabinet picks, and his supporters, though. They’ve fixated on it for weeks and have made plenty of public statements about their desires.

It will be interesting to see how long this first stage of denial lasts....like I wrote on another thread you will have plenty of time to bash Trump, 4 years, but at some point you will need to accept just how incompetent Biden was as a president, and that he was never mentally in the position to be president.

You’re free to make the case for Biden’s incompetence at any time.

Or not.

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