The Real Reason why Trump won

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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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I've explained it twice now.
Where?
If illegal immigration is such a burden as you "champion," they why are they solely responsible for reviving America's ghost towns? Why are some states and towns encouraging them to come?
Where....CFR? Where are these towns. Who are these states and towns that are encouraging illegal immigration....CFR.
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Crime may not be as the FBI reports:

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com ... 65396.html

The FBI quietly adjusted their crime stats and magically 2022 violent crime actually increased instead of decreasing as the FBI originally said.

From the article:
The actual changes in crimes are extensive. The updated data for 2022 report that there were 80,029 more violent crimes than in 2021. There were an additional 1,699 murders, 7,780 rapes, 33,459 robberies, and 37,091 aggravated assaults. The question naturally arises: should the FBI’s 2023 numbers be believed?
The FBI does a lot of guess work in their crime statistics as reported in the article:
The FBI’s crime stats revisions reveal how much guesswork is involved in even the “final” numbers often seized on by politicians. The FBI doesn’t simply count reported crimes. Instead, it offers estimates by extrapolating data from police departments that report only partial-year data. The Bureau also makes estimates for cities that report no data. The FBI’s method of generating these estimates changes over time, and it affects the figures they report.

“The [FBI’s] processes, such as how it tries to ‘estimate’ unreported figures, has long been a black box, even to the Bureau of Justice Statistics – the Department of Justice’s actual statistical agency,” says Jeffrey Anderson, who headed the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics from 2017 to 2021.
Also, a large percentage of crime isn't reported as per the article:
Another problem with FBI crime data is its reliance on reported crimes. Most crimes go unreported, with only about 45% of violent crimes and 30% of property crimes brought to the police’s attention, according to the National Crime Victimization Survey. Since the FBI only tracks reported incidents and this gap is so large, researchers argue that when the media discusses crime rates based on FBI data, they should clarify that it reflects “reported” crime, not give the impression that total crime is changing.
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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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Markk wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:22 pm
I've explained it twice now.
Where?
If illegal immigration is such a burden as you "champion," they why are they solely responsible for reviving America's ghost towns? Why are some states and towns encouraging them to come?
Where....CFR? Where are these towns. Who are these states and towns that are encouraging illegal immigration....CFR.
It’s more a question of which particular industries may be soliciting for or dependent upon illegal immigrants, past the obvious candidates like agriculture and meat packing …

https://cmsny.org/high-growth-occupatio ... rkers-nys/

… but there are some places that also solicit for immigrants. It happens enough in Canada (the whole country only has about as many people as California) that the practice has a name: place branding.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 5118310333
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:30 am
Crime may not be as the FBI reports:
And then you proceed to rely on what the FBI reports.... Adjustments are normal when new data arises. The fact that they're making adjustments is evidence that they're making an effort to be as accurate as possible.

And you're going to throw this right wing rag at us and pretend it is actual research? For crying out loud, it claims violent crime is actually up 54% and it references "crime research dot org" that is a conglomerate of articles by the largely discredited "Dr. John Lott." Get real already. Nobody ever said the FBI's reports on crime are 100% accurate. Of course there are going to be crimes that happen that go unreported. But this has always been the case, including during the Trump administration. Is that supposed to be news?

Fact Check dot Org recently addressed the FBI's revision and concluded: Crime Stats Still Show a Decline Since 2020
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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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Markk wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:22 pm
I've explained it twice now.
Where?
Make that three times. I've pointed out why it was a problem in NY, because thousands of migrants were intentionally dumped there. Too much of anything can be bad. But it is dishonest to sit there and pretend that the issue in NY is representative of the entire country.
Where....CFR? Where are these towns. Who are these states and towns that are encouraging illegal immigration....CFR.
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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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Markk wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:58 pm
Veritas,

This the reality accross the country....people are tired of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs6vHXI8WWY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRsM2GCeR-I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55-kQlZznw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jM4Zr072Ek


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfbwOa4LQqE

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vQX2ef5QUNQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcdPAs_fQI

This is just the reality of defunding the police and "community policing." I could paste scores of similar links.
This is what you've been so quickly reduced to? Youtube spamming with irrelevant clips that have nothing to do with the issue, and ridiculous claims of "defunding the police"? Nobody has defunded the police, and when Bill Clinton promised 100,000 extra police officers on the job, Republicans assured us all it was a gimmick that had nothing to do with decreasing crime.

Locking up toothpaste and Doritos behind lock and key certainly isn't something I've seen happen here in Georgia. I don't recall every seeing that happen, but I do recall seeing some more expensive items being locked away, such as razor blades. This is not indicative of sudden increase in crime rates, it is indicative of corporate American responding to an ongoing problem they've been dealing with for a long time now. It's your job to tie anything you mentioned above, to Biden/Harris being a contributing factor and Trump being some kind of cure. You keep avoiding this because you can't establish either, and you know it.
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Vēritās wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:27 am
Markk wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:22 pm


Where?
Make that three times. I've pointed out why it was a problem in NY, because thousands of migrants were intentionally dumped there. Too much of anything can be bad. But it is dishonest to sit there and pretend that the issue in NY is representative of the entire country.
Where....CFR? Where are these towns. Who are these states and towns that are encouraging illegal immigration....CFR.
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Veritas wrote...This is what you've been so quickly reduced to? Youtube spamming with irrelevant clips that have nothing to do with the issue, and ridiculous claims of "defunding the police"? Nobody has defunded the police, and when Bill Clinton promised 100,000 extra police officers on the job, Republicans assured us all it was a gimmick that had nothing to do with decreasing crime.
These clips are relevant enough to be on local and Nation News services.

You mean his COP's program that was 30 years ago? You wrote yesterday.... "The President of the United States doesn't dictate state laws nor is it his responsibility to enforce them as he sees fit." Did he take credit, and blame for crimes prevention with COPs? You denied Presidents do such things when I wrote Biden and Harris were not tough on Crime.

But anyways the videos are a reality of the 20 plus % rise in shoplifting and why Ca is making it a felony for repeat offenders. If California is getting tough, you know it is bad.
Locking up toothpaste and Doritos behind lock and key certainly isn't something I've seen happen here in Georgia. I don't recall every seeing that happen, but I do recall seeing some more expensive items being locked away, such as razor blades. This is not indicative of sudden increase in crime rates, it is indicative of corporate American responding to an ongoing problem they've been dealing with for a long time now. It's your job to tie anything you mentioned above, to Biden/Harris being a contributing factor and Trump being some kind of cure. You keep avoiding this because you can't establish either, and you know it.
Shop lifting is up just about every where, including Georgia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7jA1fN7lPg "plaguing the city" are strong words.

https://www.11alive.com/video/news/spec ... fa4123e083

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BlRB3FAcZQ

https://southeastgeorgiatoday.com/index ... Itemid=101

https://www.thegeorgiavirtue.com/georgi ... -in-sight/

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgi ... rime-rings
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Re: The Real Reason why Trump won

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Vēritās wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:21 am
Dr Exiled wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2024 12:30 am
Crime may not be as the FBI reports:
And then you proceed to rely on what the FBI reports.... Adjustments are normal when new data arises. The fact that they're making adjustments is evidence that they're making an effort to be as accurate as possible.

And you're going to throw this right wing rag at us and pretend it is actual research? For crying out loud, it claims violent crime is actually up 54% and it references "crime research dot org" that is a conglomerate of articles by the largely discredited "Dr. John Lott." Get real already. Nobody ever said the FBI's reports on crime are 100% accurate. Of course there are going to be crimes that happen that go unreported. But this has always been the case, including during the Trump administration. Is that supposed to be news?

Fact Check dot Org recently addressed the FBI's revision and concluded: Crime Stats Still Show a Decline Since 2020
Please tell me the right sources to look at oh wise one. I'm lost in a sea of right-wing propaganda apparently. At least you aren't reposting media matters nonsense on a daily basis like you used to.
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