Should the Dehlin/Rosebud drama be deleted?

[I Have Questions]

He's not a poster here.

I appreciate the clarification. I was told by others that he is a poster here, so they must be mistaken.

Who told you DCP is a poster here?

[drumdude]

He already knew DCP wasn’t a poster here. He’s just doing his disingenuous thing again.

This really makes me want to reach out to Daniel Peterson and encourage him to create an account here and simply post "Hi, I feel unsafe." That would be hilarious. The pearl clutching going on here is mind-boggling.

Posted literally 2 hours ago lol

[Marcus]

Everyone, thanks again for everything you have posted. I have read each one and done my best to digest them.

IMPORTANT: Rosebud is **NOT** in danger of being banned. No matter what happens to her megathread, she'll be just as welcome to keep participating here as anyone else.

SIDE NOTE: Mr. Dehlin has **NOT** threatened this board, legally or otherwise.

Considering everything that's been posted, and how relatively close the votes have been, I believe the proper and prudent action is to move Rosebud's megathread to the Telestial Forum, where personal attacks are allowed. Yes, I will consider allegations of illegal conduct as personal attacks, and since the target of said attacks is a poster here, those charges and the thread in which they reside can and should be reclassified as Telestial.

In order to avoid censoring her or curtailing her freedom of speech, she and everyone else will be able to continue to read and post in it. The difference is that only registered users--those with "skin in the game"--will be able to see it, no one else.

The next step will be to decide if this thread, too, should be moved to the Telestial Forum, since it refers to said attacks. For now, though, I think I'll leave it (i.e., THIS thread, not the megathread) here until participation in it ends, then move it.

Marcus and drumdude, hopefully you will now agree that the rules are being followed.

Thanks for the shoutout, but your OP actually quoted I Have A Question's concerns about the rules not being followed. Maybe you meant to reference them:

Dear participants,

The following was posted in the "Top Ten Happenings in Mopologetics, 2024" thread by I Have Questions:

There’s a difference between criticising someone for some of the assertions they make, for some of the content they put out etc, and public accusations of serious criminality. Rosebud isn’t criticising the content put out by Mormon Stories, she isn’t criticising what the proprietor of Mormon Stories says. She is making accusations about behind-the-scenes criminal wrongdoing. Obsessively. And she is using this board to do so.

Her behaviour is against one of your own board rules, but you continue to allow it. I suggest you either remove the board rule, or enforce it. But don’t do nothing.

I've been nervous about the Dehlin accusations from the start, but I've allowed them because he uses his name on a public website and is something of a public figure, by his own design. He's a poster here, but doesn't post under his own name, and Rosebud hasn't linked his real name to his user name, so I've allowed it for that reason, too. I've also allowed it in the name of Rosebud's freedom of speech.

To that end, should I remove the "The Rosebud MEGATHREAD" and ban all further accusations of alleged criminal conduct on Dehlin's part, under the auspices that he is a poster here, even if his real name and user name aren't linked?

A big thanks to IHQ, for articulating the issue clearly and catching our proprietor's attention sufficiently enough to generate a change. Well done.

[Dr. Shades]

He's not a poster here.

I appreciate the clarification. I was told by others that he is a poster here, so they must be mistaken.

He was, quite a number of years ago.

[jpatterson]

I appreciate the clarification. I was told by others that he is a poster here, so they must be mistaken.

Who told you DCP is a poster here?

IWMP did here.

[jpatterson]

I appreciate the clarification. I was told by others that he is a poster here, so they must be mistaken.

He was, quite a number of years ago.

Does he still have an active account?

[I Have Questions]

Who told you DCP is a poster here?

IWMP did here.

IWMP seems to be referring to Dehlin. “He has an account here. I doubt he is bothered. The thread makes him look innocent enough.” Given that the thread in question was all about Dehlin, and doesn’t refer to DCP in any way.

[I Have Questions]

A big thanks to IHQ, for articulating the issue clearly and catching our proprietor's attention sufficiently enough to generate a change. Well done.

Thanks Marcus.

[IWMP]

Rosebud is not making threats or accusations against another member.

She is making accusations against a public figure.

This really makes me want to reach out to Daniel Peterson and encourage him to create an account here and simply post "Hi, I feel unsafe." That would be hilarious. The pearl clutching going on here is mind-boggling.

He has an account here. I doubt he is bothered. The thread makes him look innocent enough.

Apologies... I meant Dehlin has an account, hence, "the thread makes him look innocent enough", meaning rosebuds thread makes him look innocent. Not DCP. That's on me.

[Jersey Girl]

Everyone, thanks again for everything you have posted. I have read each one and done my best to digest them.

IMPORTANT: Rosebud is **NOT** in danger of being banned. No matter what happens to her megathread, she'll be just as welcome to keep participating here as anyone else.

SIDE NOTE: Mr. Dehlin has **NOT** threatened this board, legally or otherwise.

Considering everything that's been posted, and how relatively close the votes have been, I believe the proper and prudent action is to move Rosebud's megathread to the Telestial Forum, where personal attacks are allowed. Yes, I will consider allegations of illegal conduct as personal attacks, and since the target of said attacks is a poster here, those charges and the thread in which they reside can and should be reclassified as Telestial.

In order to avoid censoring her or curtailing her freedom of speech, she and everyone else will be able to continue to read and post in it. The difference is that only registered users--those with "skin in the game"--will be able to see it, no one else.

The next step will be to decide if this thread, too, should be moved to the Telestial Forum, since it refers to said attacks. For now, though, I think I'll leave it (i.e., THIS thread, not the megathread) here until participation in it ends, then move it.

Marcus and drumdude, hopefully you will now agree that the rules are being followed.

I'm good with this. Well done.