It Isn't about Trump - It's about Americans

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Re: It Isn't about Trump - It's about Americans

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Antidote: Telephone Town Halls

'Very obviously Donald Trump's fault': Red states feel the pain of Trump's heedless funding cuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nPTHiPPCak

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It's becoming painfully clear that it's about obscenely wealthy oligarchs, most notably Elon Musk, trying to shunt away democracy itself and make Trump into a mere puppet to facilitate the transition to the oligarchic despotism they are aiming for. Musk is proposing eliminating entire agencies of the U.S. government and their funding, to the detriment of anyone other than the wealthiest elite, in order to make affordable the trillions of dollars' worth of tax cuts they crave for themselves. Musk has made it explicitly clear that he doesn't give a gnat's eyelash for the most helpless and least advantaged of his fellow humans who will suffer, even advocating elimination of funding for childhood cancer research, for example. It almost makes me wish there really were such a thing as Hell to which people like him could be relegated for all eternity!
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All of Europe should be on alert that Trump has sold them out. The US has become an allied state of Russia. Trump plans on dissolving America and forming the Confederate States with its Capital at Mar-a-Lago.
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Gunnar wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 3:56 am
It's becoming painfully clear that it's about obscenely wealthy oligarchs, most notably Elon Musk, trying to shunt away democracy itself and make Trump into a mere puppet to facilitate the transition to the oligarchic despotism they are aiming for. Musk is proposing eliminating entire agencies of the U.S. government and their funding, to the detriment of anyone other than the wealthiest elite, in order to make affordable the trillions of dollars' worth of tax cuts they crave for themselves. Musk has made it explicitly clear that he doesn't give a gnat's eyelash for the most helpless and least advantaged of his fellow humans who will suffer, even advocating elimination of funding for childhood cancer research, for example. It almost makes me wish there really were such a thing as Hell to which people like him could be relegated for all eternity!
I've watched Musk speaking here and there, watched his behavior. There's something off about him. No, not the greed.

He's extremely immature. Like he's looking at the world as if it were a Nintendo game or something like that. I don't think he sees reality but rather fantasy. He's somehow disconnected from reality. I mean the man knows how to make money but he doesn't seem tuned in to the human world around him. He treats employees as if they were things.

Do you know if he's got a legitimately diagnosed autism spectrum disorder? I'll see what I can find over the weekend but I honestly don't think I'll find anything reliable unless his own psychiatrist were permitted to disclose and even so, I wouldn't even trust that since he's got the ability to pay anyone to do anything he tells them to do. If he has got a diagnosis, he's functioning from the extreme end of it. Like the dark side type extreme end.

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:34 am
Q: Antichrist or Beast?
Option C: Machiavellian authoritarian with a Messiah complex.
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canpakes wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:52 am
Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:34 am
Q: Antichrist or Beast?
Option C: Machiavellian authoritarian with a Messiah complex.
Trump or Musk? Both?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 7:12 am
canpakes wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:52 am
Option C: Machiavellian authoritarian with a Messiah complex.
Trump or Musk? Both?
I would say both.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:34 am
He's extremely immature. Like he's looking at the world as if it were a Nintendo game or something like that. I don't think he sees reality but rather fantasy. He's somehow disconnected from reality. I mean the man knows how to make money but he doesn't seem tuned in to the human world around him. He treats employees as if they were things.
It clearly seems that way to me also. I'm not qualified to judge whether or not he is autistic, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is. However, even if he is, merely being autistic is not necessarily a disqualifying or derogatory thing. It is just another disability that can be overcome, given appropriate therapy and training. There are a lot of autistic people who have learned how to cope with and compensate for that disability enough to lead very successful, productive and admirable lives.
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Elon Musk: The Fraudster trying to Destroy America!

Thunderf00t very credibly points out the potential and perhaps even inevitable consequences of this travesty!

This, like it or not, is what it is mainly about. How can anyone in their right mind believe that there was no danger in giving an unelected immigrant with no security clearance access to Treasury records containing sensitive personal and financial records of all Americans along with administrative privileges? What or who would limit him from using that access for any fraudulent and illegal purpose for his own or Trump's selfish benefit? Trump, who is himself already a convicted felon? Trump's selected attorney general, who is obviously committed to absolute loyalty to Trump? Even if she or someone else in the Department of Justice has the spine and sense to prosecute Musk for criminal use of that information, Trump has the constitutional power to pardon Musk for any federal crime he wants to get away with, up to and including murder!

And thanks to Trump's fully owned conservative majority in the Supreme Court, Trump himself has been ruled immune from indictment and prosecution for virtually crime it would enter his head to do! What reasonable advocate of democracy and human liberty could possibly not be alarmed by this situation?
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Musk does drugs. Open known thing that he abuses ketamine. Another funny thing he wanted to be part of the furry scene in San Francisco and he was too weird for them and was purposefully excluded. The source provided a photo of Musk clearly wearing a furry related costume with drug paraphernalia. Someone I know in the San Francisco tech scene, while not having first hand knowledge, says they remember hearing about this at the time.

The image in question https://64.media.tumblr.com/b95f3856b79 ... e1fc28.jpg
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