FAFO v. Empathy

[I Have Questions]

If we shut the door like some of us have, written people off even family members, then what is the profit to us in that?

Maintaining healthy boundaries.

That's a very good point. Some people have toxic friends and family members, and to protect them and theirs they are much better off shutting the door on that person.

[Gadianton]

There are scenarios where I could cut off people. I think it really depends on the right-winger. I have several family members who are unhinged right-wingers when it comes down to it. I have no intention of cutting them off, although never say never. I say consider making them cut you off instead.

A big problem right-wingers have is they wear their politics on their sleeve. They are triumphantly ignorant. The dumber the idea, the more they stand for it and dig in. There are zero reasonable right-wingers in the world, to my knowledge, even if there are otherwise intelligent ones who are engineers or whatever.

I think people contemplating cutting off should consider talking back instead. Right wingers seem to feel like they have a right to spout whatever they want and everyone else has a duty to listen to them and not say anything. And so normal people let it go. And then the normie gets to that point where they just can't stand the constant grating of the nonsense. Well, dispute it. That's what I did with my right-wing friend. I would counter him. He can't take getting responded to and then really melts down. But if he does that, I just start insulting him and telling him how stupid he is or FU or whatever. Well, he's really good about not bringing it up anymore. I think the last outbreak was my fault, I brought something up. If you stand up to them, they may cut you off before you need to cut them off.

I have other right-wing relatives who don't break the stupid meter like my friend does or what goes for the common fare around here. One in particular is completely in the ether with the nonsense he believes, but he's super smart, very analytical and well-spoken, and a very loving individual. He avoids talking politics but I'm sure he's curious as hell. He drops hints about where he's at and probes a little and I avoid it. If it ever did come down to laying down all the cards, I would have no problem calmly explaining to him that's he's essentially a Nazi, just born in a different era. Then lets see who cuts off who.

[dantana]

There are scenarios where I could cut off people. I think it really depends on the right-winger. I have several family members who are unhinged right-wingers when it comes down to it. I have no intention of cutting them off, although never say never. I say consider making them cut you off instead.

A big problem right-wingers have is they wear their politics on their sleeve. They are triumphantly ignorant. The dumber the idea, the more they stand for it and dig in. There are zero reasonable right-wingers in the world, to my knowledge, even if there are otherwise intelligent ones who are engineers or whatever.

I think people contemplating cutting off should consider talking back instead. Right wingers seem to feel like they have a right to spout whatever they want and everyone else has a duty to listen to them and not say anything. And so normal people let it go. And then the normie gets to that point where they just can't stand the constant grating of the nonsense. Well, dispute it. That's what I did with my right-wing friend. I would counter him. He can't take getting responded to and then really melts down. But if he does that, I just start insulting him and telling him how stupid he is or FU or whatever. Well, he's really good about not bringing it up anymore. I think the last outbreak was my fault, I brought something up. If you stand up to them, they may cut you off before you need to cut them off.

I have other right-wing relatives who don't break the stupid meter like my friend does or what goes for the common fare around here. One in particular is completely in the ether with the nonsense he believes, but he's super smart, very analytical and well-spoken, and a very loving individual. He avoids talking politics but I'm sure he's curious as hell. He drops hints about where he's at and probes a little and I avoid it. If it ever did come down to laying down all the cards, I would have no problem calmly explaining to him that's he's essentially a Nazi, just born in a different era. Then lets see who cuts off who.

I never really have understood the whole - blood is thicker than water - traditionalism. I prefer my humans for what they are, not who they are. I mean, in the long game people are eternal un-created intelligences, permanently embedded in an spirit body vehicle created by the god pyramid, semi-permanently embedded in disposable wreck-able physical body machine created by a natural phenomenon I have nothing to do with. So yeah, I'm like - third mortgage holder.

Anyway, I have two sons that are as fanatically devoted to MAGA as Tex Watson is to Charlie. Luckily I have two more that aren't, so at least there's that. One of my MAGA boys is worse than the other and will basically defend anything Charlie Trump says. Like: the - no reflection in the aircraft at the Kamala airport rally, therefore there was no crowd - conspiracy.

Try to explain to him that it was maybe a photo-shop by a MAGA mob person, as there are plenty of other pics out there since there were dozens of other news agencies at the rally, and he goes bonkers. He immediately reaches for his pocket size "How to obfuscate for the greater good" handbook. It's a Junior Busby, LTD conglomerate publication.

My favorite one is where he defends the indefensible. The - electric boats and sharks claptrap. Try to explain that no one in the history of boating mishaps has ever died from electrocution when their boat sank, because for one; DC current does not electrocute, there are too many things dissimilar to an AC hair dryer falling in the bathtub with a person, etc., and he's reaching for the book.

I've never understood where Trump was going with that anyway. My best guess is he was riffing on dissing on electric cars - because of his own big oil butt cam subscription - wondering in his mind then, what if they made electric boats - but forgot to make that connection for the audience.

[Dr. Shades]

There are scenarios where I could cut off people. . . I have no intention of cutting them off, although never say never. I say consider making them cut you off instead.

I think people contemplating cutting off should consider talking back instead. . . If you stand up to them, they may cut you off before you need to cut them off.

. . . I would have no problem calmly explaining to him that's he's essentially a Nazi, just born in a different era. Then lets see who cuts off who.

[Gadianton]

I don't know who Lorena Bobbitt is or what you intended by the picture, but the best to which I can recast my point in light of the picture is to say, don't be afraid to insult people to the point that they cut you off before you cut them off, if the relationship is to the point where you are considering cutting them off for your own sanity.

[Some Schmo]

Lorena Bobbitt cut her husband's dick off.

[Some Schmo]

I've thought about Jersey Girl's question a lot, and it occurs to me that not only do you not have to associate with Trump fans, it's actually in your best interests. Nobody has anything to gain by listening to people so ignorant, they think Trump was a good idea. It's pure ignorance to think it won't be that bad "like last time" (damned morons).

The point is that talking to Trump fans benefits you in no way (unless you're an addled brain researcher, or perhaps a focus group podcaster trying to divine some meaning in all the stupidity and ignorance). You will only be affected negatively by the experience, because you'll either actually believe what they say, or you'll have to spend time disinfecting your brain from their infectious rot.

There are about to be millions of desperate people once the jump in inflation kicks in from Trump's idiot trade war, and my help and sympathy will go to those who voted against this third world banana republic way of doing things. Anyone who's not a Harris voter and children who couldn't vote can damned suffer, and I won't care. Those stories only make me laugh.

To all the Trump voters and non voters, you can all die in a fire. You are a net drag on the country, civilization, and humanity in general. Deplorable is too nice a word for you sorry pieces of crap.

Empathy, my ass. Perhaps I'll show some when these idiots figure out what it means, but I doubt I will ever want to have anything to do with any of them. They've shown their true colors, and I'm not into crap brown.

[Jersey Girl]

[Some Schmo]

Wait... are you saying I'm within walking distance of crazy?

Yeah, fair enough.

[Marcus]

Lol. Excellent reinforcement of what Schmo said...
Seriously, though, I have to agree. It's been a shock to find out that people really are taken in by Trump's nonsense. Some people will just take what they hear on shockradio and not only believe it, but cite it as a source. It's disheartening.