LDS Church urges members to call out racism in their congregations

[bill4long]

If there is no Creator, what's wrong with racism other than you don't happen to like it?

I acknowledge, that's a bit off topic. But not completely.

Woof!

[huckelberry]

If there is no Creator, what's wrong with racism other than you don't happen to like it?

I acknowledge, that's a bit off topic. But not completely.

Woof!

Without racism people in the society get along with each other much better which makes for a more happy and prosperous Society. Some people think that's a good thing.

But there are other people who just prefer there to be somebody to kick around.

[bill4long]

If there is no Creator, what's wrong with racism other than you don't happen to like it?

I acknowledge, that's a bit off topic. But not completely.

Woof!

Without racism people in the society get along with each other much better which makes for a more happy and prosperous Society. Some people think that's a good thing.

But there are other people who just prefer there to be somebody to kick around.

Is that objectively "wrong"?

[Dr. Shades]

Without racism people in the society get along with each other much better which makes for a more happy and prosperous Society. Some people think that's a good thing.

But there are other people who just prefer there to be somebody to kick around.

Is that objectively "wrong"?

Yes, because the ones being kicked around object to it.

[bill4long]

Is that objectively "wrong"?

Yes, because the ones being kicked around object to it.

The one's doing the "kicking around" affirm it.

Is it "wrong" for a lion to eat a gazelle? I would think the gazelle would think so. The lion thinks otherwise.

How is it different with humans?

[Dr. Shades]

Yes, because the ones being kicked around object to it.

The one's doing the "kicking around" affirm it.

Is it "wrong" for a lion to eat a gazelle? I would think the gazelle would think so. The lion thinks otherwise.

How is it different with humans?

The lion has to in order to not die.

Will a racist die if he or she doesn’t engage in racism?

[Marcus]

I have some bad news for you: The church has already made many, many changes to the Book of Mormon.

I've not heard.

and from the mentalgymnast,

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..Perplexity A.I...

In other words, not reliable.

[MG 2.0]

I've not heard.

and from the mentalgymnast,

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..Perplexity A.I...

In other words, not reliable.

I think it is. Is there anything you dispute? I read any A.I. responses through that I post and take responsibility for the words that are said. If there is a mistake I'm happy to own up to it.

Your response, "it's not reliable", doesn't cut it.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Thanks for sharing. That's really interesting. Any idea why Benjamin was a mistake?

I found this:

Grammatical and Typographical Corrections:

The majority of changes involved fixing spelling, grammar, and punctuation errors. For example, the word "which" was changed to "who" 891 times, and "was" was changed to "were" 162 times.

These adjustments aimed to improve readability and align the text with standard English conventions.

Doctrinal Clarifications

Several verses were altered to clarify theological concepts. For instance:

In 1 Nephi 11:18, "the mother of God" was changed to "the mother of the Son of God."

In 1 Nephi 11:32, "the Everlasting God" was changed to "the Son of the everlasting God".

These changes reflect evolving LDS theology, particularly regarding the nature of the Godhead.

Name Corrections

In Mosiah 21:28, the name "Benjamin" was replaced with "Mosiah," correcting an apparent error in the original text.

Structural Adjustments

Elder Orson Pratt introduced chapters and verses in later editions for easier referencing. This formatting change was patterned after the King James Bible.

Clarifications by Joseph Smith

Joseph Smith personally edited early editions to refine wording. Examples include changing "beside a river of water" to "by the side of a river of water" for clarity.

He also added phrases like "in my dream" to ensure readers understood context.

Elimination of King James Bible Language

Some phrases resembling King James Bible language were modernized, such as changing "he sayeth" to "he said".

Scope of Changes
Scholars estimate that over 3,913 changes have been made since 1830, with most being minor corrections. However, critics highlight doctrinal alterations as significant evidence of human influence on the text.
Perplexity A.I.

Regards,
MG

Marcus? Problems with this? If so, make corrections. I'm happy to have anything that is untrue brought to the forefront.

Regards,
MG

[MG 2.0]

Do you have any links or references on that?

Sure!

Armand Mauss
Adam Oliver Stokes
John Tvedtnes
Neil Rappleye

The thing to remember is that all is not racism in the Book of Mormon:

Could the Nephites have been racist in their views of the Lamanites? Perhaps, in the same sense that the biblical patriarchs were racist when it came to their pagan neighbors, the Hittites, the Canaanites, and the Amorites, and did not want their offspring to marry these unbelievers. But once the Lamanites had been converted to the Nephite religion, the barriers separating these people dissolved. Even before they were converted, the Nephites considered the Lamanites to be “brethren,” a term used more than fifty times in reference to the Lamanites in the Book of Mormon. This is hardly a term that one would expect to find in a society that holds racist views of a neighboring people. And if Joseph Smith’s racism is reflected in the Book of Mormon, why does that volume have large numbers of Lamanites becoming good guys and, indeed, more righteous than the Nephites in the decades before Christ’s appearance?

John Tvedtnes and Neil Rappleye take the perspective of what is explained in the above paragraph.

I know you have a certain picture you're trying to paint. You're not the first one.

IHQ, my guess is that there are a number of folks, lurkers included, that have noticed that you ask a lot of questions but rarely, if ever, engage with questions and challenges from believers.

That says something.

I think I've spent enough time with you on this thread for now. I will check back later to see if you engaged in my thought experiment on the other thread.

Regards,
MG

Good enough, IHQ?

Regards,
MG