Trump is not a fascist

[Markk]

I suggest a little more homework in regard to Garcia.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/16/kil ... y-violence

I suggest that if you can't hit the ball then you should get off the field.

The Trump administration is defying a court order to secure the return of Mr. Garcia. That is to say, Trump is defying the unanimous ruling of the very the Supreme Court he stacked in his alleged favor.

And no, if you reply to me I refuse to engage in one of your back and forths that goes exactly nowhere so don't even bother.

How do you feel about Garcia beating his wife? But apart from that what did the courts decision entail? Did you read the decision? I am about a tenth of the way through it, it will take a while....maybe you can try also? I read an abstract, and if true, it is complicated.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/ ... cation.pdf

[Markk]

I suggest a little more homework in regard to Garcia.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/16/kil ... y-violence

Oh my God, Markk. Just how stupid are you? I suppose you also trust the documentation of yellow cake plutonium the government used to invade Iraq.

OK. Derp.



Let's pretend for a moment that these documents are accurate and lead to the conclusion you think correct. That does not change the fact that every person is guaranteed due process by the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. True or false, Markk?

Thanks for your kind words. I read your post before I went to work this morning and I didn't have time to opine, but I must have missed your last paragraph, or did you edit your post.

But it is false, there are a few exceptions for due process. Trump is using Woodrow Wilson's Alien Enemies Act of 1917 (AEA). There is also Immigration Law that that allows immediate deportation, without due process, if the person is an X amount of miles from the border, for a short period of time, a week or two. There may be other reasons I am unaware of. But generally you are correct.

Rubio declared several gangs as "Foreign Terrorist Organizations" Public Notice: 12672, and because of this an illegal alien MS-13 gang member can be deported without due process per the AEA.

But anyways did you read a bit more today and see that Garcia is not the person that some of the media has made him out to be? Even CNN and other left leaning sources admit what I pasted is true.

Here is a little more information for Garcia, and if you look at the 5th document, it is the full page of the snippet you either ignorantly read ran with of Instagram or similar, or you are being just down right dishonest....but either way there seems to be more evidence that Garcia is a wife beating MS-13 gang member more that what the left is painting him as.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

[huckelberry]

Markk, I am not going to make a judgement on Mr. Garcia's character. For all I know it is possible he is a bad actor best removed from our country. I do believe that should be determined legally with respect for law public evidence in court. It is of serious import that the legal process be respected and followed. If that ends up confirming his removal, so be it.

[Jersey Girl]

[Kishkumen]

Thanks for your kind words. I read your post before I went to work this morning and I didn't have time to opine, but I must have missed your last paragraph, or did you edit your post.

But it is false, there are a few exceptions for due process. Trump is using Woodrow Wilson's Alien Enemies Act of 1917 (AEA). There is also Immigration Law that that allows immediate deportation, without due process, if the person is an X amount of miles from the border, for a short period of time, a week or two. There may be other reasons I am unaware of. But generally you are correct.

Rubio declared several gangs as "Foreign Terrorist Organizations" Public Notice: 12672, and because of this an illegal alien MS-13 gang member can be deported without due process per the AEA.

But anyways did you read a bit more today and see that Garcia is not the person that some of the media has made him out to be? Even CNN and other left leaning sources admit what I pasted is true.

Here is a little more information for Garcia, and if you look at the 5th document, it is the full page of the snippet you either ignorantly read ran with of Instagram or similar, or you are being just down right dishonest....but either way there seems to be more evidence that Garcia is a wife beating MS-13 gang member more that what the left is painting him as.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

Where’s Markk? Where’d he disappear to?

Oh my God! He’s been shipped to El Salvador!

ICE grabbed him off a job site in broad daylight, without warning!

Someone said he was a bad hombre! Belonged to some organization that Marco Rubio says is a terrorist organization!

What’s the proof? He has no criminal record! He was never charged with a crime even!

Someone said he used to hit his wife!

How do you know?

That’s what OAN is saying. Stephen Miller appeared earlier today to explain how we don’t want Markk in the country!

Whew! OK. I had no idea he was such an awful person. I have known him for years, and while we weren’t friends, he seemed like a relatively normal, decent guy to me.

You just never know. Glad Trump is keeping us safe.

Thanks for the paleo-conservative history lesson, Markk.

Yes, we all know Trump is making a mix tape of the worst decisions of the last three centuries. I guess it’s his bad luck that even very conservative judges think his take on denying due process is utter lunacy, and that his job is to execute laws as the judiciary, not he, interprets them for us.

But you guys have thrown out the Constitution. You are treating our history like a salad bar, where you pick only the stuff that appeals to you personally, Constitution be damned. If some Goebbels wanna be can cite some Act that most of us have rightly forgotten because we are ashamed it ever happened, then you guys think it is a work of genius and just the ticket for restoring us to ante-bellum America.

Your reasoning is sick.

[Kishkumen]

I did not realize this is a photo of Garcia with Senator Van Hollen! That is wonderful. Looks like it is easy enough to get him in a room with a US senator. It should be possible to put him on a plane back to the US. If Bukele thinks Garcia is a bad hombre, I don’t see why he should want to keep him in El Salvador.

[Markk]

Thanks for your kind words. I read your post before I went to work this morning and I didn't have time to opine, but I must have missed your last paragraph, or did you edit your post.

But it is false, there are a few exceptions for due process. Trump is using Woodrow Wilson's Alien Enemies Act of 1917 (AEA). There is also Immigration Law that that allows immediate deportation, without due process, if the person is an X amount of miles from the border, for a short period of time, a week or two. There may be other reasons I am unaware of. But generally you are correct.

Rubio declared several gangs as "Foreign Terrorist Organizations" Public Notice: 12672, and because of this an illegal alien MS-13 gang member can be deported without due process per the AEA.

But anyways did you read a bit more today and see that Garcia is not the person that some of the media has made him out to be? Even CNN and other left leaning sources admit what I pasted is true.

Here is a little more information for Garcia, and if you look at the 5th document, it is the full page of the snippet you either ignorantly read ran with of Instagram or similar, or you are being just down right dishonest....but either way there seems to be more evidence that Garcia is a wife beating MS-13 gang member more that what the left is painting him as.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline

Where’s Markk? Where’d he disappear to?

Oh my God! He’s been shipped to El Salvador!

ICE grabbed him off a job site in broad daylight, without warning!

Someone said he was a bad hombre! Belonged to some organization that Marco Rubio says is a terrorist organization!

What’s the proof? He has no criminal record! He was never charged with a crime even!

Someone said he used to hit his wife!

How do you know?

That’s what OAN is saying. Stephen Miller appeared earlier today to explain how we don’t want Markk in the country!

Whew! OK. I had no idea he was such an awful person. I have known him for years, and while we weren’t friends, he seemed like a relatively normal, decent guy to me.

You just never know. Glad Trump is keeping us safe.

Thanks for the paleo-conservative history lesson, Markk.

Yes, we all know Trump is making a mix tape of the worst decisions of the last three centuries. I guess it’s his bad luck that even very conservative judges think his take on denying due process is utter lunacy, and that his job is to execute laws as the judiciary, not he, interprets them for us.

But you guys have thrown out the Constitution. You are treating our history like a salad bar, where you pick only the stuff that appeals to you personally, Constitution be damned. If some Goebbels wanna be can cite some Act that most of us have rightly forgotten because we are ashamed it ever happened, then you guys think it is a work of genius and just the ticket for restoring us to ante-bellum America.

Your reasoning is sick.

Hi Kish,

We can certainly go through what I wrote and see if it is accurate or not.

Are there legal means to deport people entering our country illegally without due process? Yes there are.

You not being able to control your tongue, decided to call me a name by pasting what was probably a cropped out of context police report from a social media platform, which you did not take the time to vet for accuracy. The truth is, as I showed you, is that the gang field report reads that at the time of his arrest in 2019, 6 years ago, he had no criminal history, then goes on to explain why he was arrested, and shows he is a member of MS-13 and associating with MS-13 members; who are only allowed to associate with fellow members or recruits.

I did look online and the same cropped snippet is all over the social media platforms and most the comments I read are similar to yours; it is apparent that folks are ignorantly mistaken of the full and true context of what they are reading, or just being flat out dishonest. Folks can certainly disagree with Garcia's deportation, there are a lot of gray areas, but at least we should do our best to get the facts straight.

Kish: Someone said he used to hit his wife!

I just want to be clear, assuming that by your words here, that the authorities believe that Garcia beat his wife is based on her "hand written" 2021 signed "petition for protection. " In her petition it also reads that on one occasion he hit her with his work boot, and on another punched her and gave her a purple eye. He hit her and made her bleed.





Again if you believe he should be brought back here and have his day in court fine, but we should at least get the facts organized and straight on who Garcia is.

If all this information is true, and he is a member of MS-13, and a wife beater, should he be deported in your opinion, seeing you arguments are mostly biased on opinions.

[Doctor Steuss]

Just a reminder that when Trump was President last time, an American citizen was held by ICE for 3 1/2 years (YEARS!).

If he were around today, he'd likely be sitting in an El Salvador torture prison instead of an ICE detention center.

One of the people Trump attempted to have disappeared to El Salvador was able to evade transport long enough to get a hearing. The result? The government presented zero evidence of gang affiliation or criminal conduct. Zero. They didn't even try to present flimsy hearsay evidence from a drunken cop that did favors with sex workers. They didn't even try to claim innocuous tattoos were gang related, or that being a fan of a sports team was evidence of gang affiliation.

Nope. When it came to G.F.F. (as they are referred to in the ACLU court document), who Trump tried to send to the torture prison under the Act that was last used to inter Japanese American citizens, they didn't even try. They had zero evidence.

Meanwhile, an American citizen in Florida was finally released from imprisonment yesterday. Some seem to think there should be no due process, and that American citizen should have been deported to the torture prison for the crime of being from another state, traveling in Florida, with brown skin.

MAGA is an autoimmune disease that attacks ethics, rationality, and empathy.

[canpakes]

The truth is, as I showed you, is that the gang field report reads that at the time of his arrest in 2019, 6years ago, he had no criminal history, then goes on to explain why he was arrested, and shows he is a member of MS-13 and associating with MS-13 members; who are only allowed to associate with fellow members or recruits.

It doesn’t ‘show’ that. The report only alleges that some other unidentified person claimed that Garcia was a gang member.

The point Kish is making is valid, and applicable to your own situation. You’ve spoken about a darker time in your own history, and if your skin color was perhaps just a bit less pale, any number of ‘informants’ (maybe business competitors?) could make the same accusation of your gang affiliation today, maybe after being paid a small handful of cash to do so. If that were to happen, would you see your own deportation to a foreign prison, without due process, as acceptable? The status of your own citizenship is irrelevant as the Trump Administration has both (1) acknowledged that it initially made a mistake (but is now backpedaling, as it is incapable of actually sticking to that honest assessment and then righting its own mistakes) yet doesn’t care, and (2) that it is now also exploring the idea of sending citizens that it regards as ‘bad hombres’ out of the country.

You’re doing your best to avoid the actual issue by attempting to drill into the past of a person that this Administration clearly states - within your own link - has no criminal record, and you’re doing so to justify ignoring due process. How far are you willing to go in rejecting our laws and Constitution in order to protect political ego?

[Kishkumen]

Osama bin Laden succeeded beyond his wildest dreams, though he did not live to see his success. He turned the Republican Party into a violent extremist movement that is hellbent on destroying the United States as it was when bin Laden attacked it. It took 25 years, but he did it. And the same Americans who were freaking out about Muslims then are freaking out about immigrants now. Everyone who looks different is a potential bogeyman. Shoot now and ask questions later. It used to be that there were enough people with the wisdom and soberness to put the brakes on, now the Trump and his MAGA extremists are lighting a match at the gas pump to collect the insurance money.