Trump is not a fascist

[Kishkumen]

It would have also increased funding to expand ICE detention centers (a whopping 47% increase in capacity), and to continue construction of the border wall (that Trump failed at).

Trump is getting around that cost by establishing a 21st century American concentration camp in El Salvador.

[Doctor Steuss]

It would have also increased funding to expand ICE detention centers (a whopping 47% increase in capacity), and to continue construction of the border wall (that Trump failed at).

Trump is getting around that cost by establishing a 21st century American concentration camp in El Salvador.

Ironically (for lack of a better word), at the current rate, about 2 more months of Trump's golf trips will have his accumulative cost to American taxpayers surpass what was going to be allocated in the bill to expand detention capacity here in America. Y'know, creating jobs for Americans (construction, administrative, supply chain, corrections officers, etc.) on American soil, without committing internation human rights violations. For people that care about the juxtaposition of fiscal responsibility, and not being garbage human beings.

[Kishkumen]

Ironically (for lack of a better word), at the current rate, about 2 more months of Trump's golf trips will have his accumulative cost to American taxpayers surpass what was going to be allocated in the bill to expand detention capacity here in America. Y'know, creating jobs for Americans (construction, administrative, supply chain, corrections officers, etc.) on American soil, without committing internation human rights violations. For people that care about the juxtaposition of fiscal responsibility, and not being garbage human beings.

I know I don't care to pay for Trump to waddle around his garish, overpriced lawns.

[Doctor Steuss]

These leftist Democrat activist judges are out of control.

U.S. District Judge Stephanie Gallagher, a Trump appointee, on Wednesday ruled that the Trump administration violated a settlement agreement the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) reached last year with a group of young asylum seekers when it deported a 20-year-old man, referred to in court filings as "Cristian," to El Salvador last month.

Fox News

[Kishkumen]

Well, everyone who disagrees with Trump is obviously a “far left lunatic,” right?

[canpakes]

Also keep in mine Trump basically shut down the border in a month or two, …

Oh, good. No more fentanyl crisis, then.

[Markk]

You seem to be incredibly confused about how our court systems work. Getting gang members and criminals here in front of federal judges has nothing to do with immigration. That's Attorney Generals, the Department of Justice, and local law enforcement.

You seem to be incredibly confused about how our court systems work. Getting gang members and criminals here in front of federal judges has nothing to do with immigration. That's Attorney Generals, the Department of Justice, and local law enforcement.

As far as the things I stated it would do (increase the number of agents, improve technology, and increase the number of judges), here's the text.
S.4361 - Border Act of 2024. Of note, this was endorsed by the National Border Control Council (who represents the thousands of border agents and personnel).

I did get one thing wrong (for which I apologize -- I really do try to be accurate in my ranty ramblings). It didn't increase the number of judges. It substituted judicial review and oversight for the process that is currently overseen by USCIS for people crossing unlawfully, and it also would have sped up the asylum screening process (and made more restrictive standards for acceptance) which would have freed up a significant amount of time for judges to get through the backlog of people already in the country. It did, however, have funding for the administrative side to help streamline everything for judges (i.e. lawyers, law clerks, paralegals, etc.).

It would have also increased funding to expand ICE detention centers (a whopping 47% increase in capacity), and to continue construction of the border wall (that Trump failed at).

Steuss, so are you saying that federal judges don't judicate immigration hearings in federal immigration courts, let alone their being apart of the Dept. of Justice?

My comment is about while Trump is being aggressive, and getting flack by many for that, and yet you are saying that your plan is to hire more folks to get aggressive.

In regard to the bill, Trump basically shut down the border in a month or two, without the bill. Why didn't the Biden do what Trump has done and is doing without a Bill? Why didn't Biden go hard and aggressively at these gang members. He could have, and instead of deporting them via the AEA, he could have just detained them for years and let them go through the system.

So I guess you have no problem with Trump being aggressive, and that he is doing a great job finding and arresting these gang members, but that you are just upset with him declaring them Terrorists and invoking the AEA? Can you at least give credit to Trump for shutting down the border to a manageable number, without a muddy bill?

Trump failed at the border wall? OOkay, so are you supporting Trump building the Border wall now? Even after Biden sold already paid for materials when he stopped Trump's wall, and before he left office. Are you implying that the democrats supported Trump's Border Wall?

[Kishkumen]

So I guess you have no problem with Trump being aggressive, and that he is doing a great job finding and arresting these gang members, but that you are just upset with him declaring them Terrorists and invoking the AEA? Can you at least give credit to Trump for shutting down the border to a manageable number, without a muddy bill?

Trump failed at the border wall? OOkay, so are you supporting Trump building the Border wall now? Even after Biden sold already paid for materials when he stopped Trump's wall, and before he left office. Are you implying that the democrats supported Trump's Border Wall?

I think what a lot of us are saying is that Trump's solutions have generally been juvenile, unrealistic, backwards, and cruel. And, many of us would rather have Congress legislate while the president enforces the laws Congress passes. You know, like the Constitution provides for.

[Markk]

So I guess you have no problem with Trump being aggressive, and that he is doing a great job finding and arresting these gang members, but that you are just upset with him declaring them Terrorists and invoking the AEA? Can you at least give credit to Trump for shutting down the border to a manageable number, without a muddy bill?

Trump failed at the border wall? OOkay, so are you supporting Trump building the Border wall now? Even after Biden sold already paid for materials when he stopped Trump's wall, and before he left office. Are you implying that the democrats supported Trump's Border Wall?

I think what a lot of us are saying is that Trump's solutions have generally been juvenile, unrealistic, backwards, and cruel. And, many of us would rather have Congress legislate while the president enforces the laws Congress passes. You know, like the Constitution provides for.

Kish, what is backwards about shutting down the border? Again what are your alternatives Kish. Biden just let millions flow across the border; so much so even blue cites and states could not handle the influx.

So far only Steuss has attempted to lay out a plan by saying the 2024 immigration bill was a plan. I read, and am reading through most of the bill....I see no plan in the bill. So my question to Steuss, and you can answer it if you like, "if the bill would have passed, how would the bill be put into effect?”

It took congress/senate almost 3-1/2 years to even come up with a bill, while millions were crossing our border, even while Biden allowed it by even taking down barriers and limiting CBP. Then when the left realized the election was in peril, they created a very muddy bill that actually from what I am understanding allowed more immigration.

So far, except for Steuss, all I am seeing is ad hom name slinging Kish. Identity politics. We all know you hate Trump and people like me, Lol believe me, you say or imply it so many posts, but I guess that is not a "juvenile" or unproductive method of discourse too you, I guess actully offering the alternative to a very real issue that Americans care about is out of the question.

Folks get that, and the young voters are starting to see this, which is why Trump's approval rating on this Issue are over 50%. One democrat Congresswoman is now blaming the Laken Riley act for arresting illegal immigrants for breaking the law, "like shoplifting"......Folks are getting tired of this nonsense. Is shoplifting now a right?

[Kishkumen]

Kish, What is backwards about shutting down the border? Again what are your alternatives Kish. Biden just let millions flow across the border; so much so even blue cites and states could not handle the influx.

It is impossible to literally "shut down" crossings between two nations. People did escape East Germany to reach West Germany by way of the Berlin WALL. All you can do is limit and direct traffic. I find your catastrophizing amusing. It affirms to me that you will not get off this hobby horse as long as you think it is useful.

Here is what is happening. I grant that you may be genuinely afraid of millions of undocumented immigrants in this country, but you are not really interested in realistic efforts to tackle the complex issues surrounding this. My guess is that you can't even faintly grasp the complexity of the issues, so you get worked up by visions of millions of non-English-speaking brown people flooding over the border. You are fed such visions by people who don't genuinely care about the problem but use it to concentrate POWER in their own hands. They are USING YOU to do that.

We could address this problem with normal legislative tools, but Trump, his puppet masters, and his lackeys don't want that. They want to see how much power they can grab in the name of illegal immigration without effectively helping anyone. You are being duped.

A realistic plan that COULD be passed in Congress by functional parties seeking to govern might include:

1. A reasonable path to citizenship
2. An increase in the number of judges to process cases
3. Sane and humane policies regarding visas, residence, and asylum
4. Reform of law enforcement procedures surrounding immigration

My guess is that no one would be perfectly satisfied with the outcome of this legislation. Extremists would continue to complain about it because they would be robbed of the juice they need to fuel their own agendas. But, many of the current problems would be ameliorated. What needs to happen to see such improvement is that the middle needs to tamp down the extremes on the ideological spectrum. Right now, the extreme right is using the bogeyman of the extreme left to amass power and turn this nation into an authoritarian hellhole.