The Great Biden Distraction

[canpakes]

… I suspect the powers that be wanted a war with Ukraine and Biden's cronies were heavily involved with Ukraine since at least before the 2014 coup we championed.

The powers that be, in this case, being Putin? Or was it Biden’s staff who turned on the Mind Ray Machine to force Putin to invade?

In hindsight, it appears that the war would have happened regardless had Trump been at the helm, given how useless Taco in Chief’s recent involvement has been and how impotent he has proven to be in swaying Putin’s actions.

[Kishkumen]

It has nothing to do with whether leftists in the media aren't as politically nonpartisan as they think.

Did I say it was? Which conversation are you participating in?

The reason Joe Biden's cognitive decline is a scandal is because it proves that the media and the Democrat party was lying and deliberately misleading the voting public the entire time and therefore should not be trusted as a source of truth.

Because MAGA never lies and its media propagandists only deal in facts. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the lesson should always be this: do not trust anyone in power. ANYONE!

[Gadianton]

There is the tiniest bit of truth to what our resident NN says here. They can; we can't, because of how expectations have been set. The trademark of the current administration takes lying next level, to the point where that's all they do. Never back down, never apologize, never try to see your part in a problem, and your people lower their expectations. When the class clowns take over the classroom, they aren't held to the same standards as the teachers were. They just say whatever they want, and anybody who has come to support them for whatever reason, knows they have to accept it and move on.

Some of this stuff is outright fascinating, and you have to go beyond simplistic ideas like "racism" to explain it. My favorite example so far of Ajax, Markk, Ceeboo, Hound, Binger (lol), msnobody, and Bill, (not to leave anybody out) is Romana Didulo. How did a 5' Filipino woman end up as commander and chief over the lives of a bunch of Boomer and Genx white guys, many of whom are probably racist as hell?

While Trump took the handbook of outrageous lies to the next level, the Queen of Canada took the Trump handbook to the next level. A random lady gets on YouTube making videos of herself announcing she's Queen of Canada, she's got flags and cheesy props and gets right into issuing executive orders as the Queen. Talking points are essentially QAnon. Never breaks character, never apologizes, and always outdoes herself with the next outrageous stunt, and soon she's got a decent following. She announces an end to utility bills, her followers quit paying, get their power turned off, and then what? I guess that's for the follower to decide because she's not going to back down. Riots like the capital riots at jails with a crowd that looks exactly the same, and now a bunch of them live in motorhomes and tour the country.

Justin Trudeau also lied! Probably, but the two situations are entirely different. Yes, the Queen is the backlash to the problem in administrations like Trudeaus, but it will never be the solution. Just like MAGA will never be our solution. Even if there were a civil war of some kind, the red states would keep going through successive revolutions until they ended up with something else, maybe similar to Russia but maybe not. It's not easy to replicate the Trump playbook. Look at Kari Lake, she's white, she was already in power, and by Hound's standards she's attractive, and she's failed miserably to instate herself as supreme leader of Arizona, even though she did everything right.

But anyway, let's not compare the lies of the Democratic Party to the lies of the Republican Party. They are in totally different dimensions. Democrats will need to still take some responsibility for their downfalls and hopefully they will, as a third party probably isn't realistic at this time.

[Marcus]

...Doubling down shows that someone really needs the tribe badly...

That sums up quite a bit of what seems to drive Trump supporters to just keep repeating his lies and never be willing to learn about something in a neutral setting. I am astonished at what people repeat-- everything from nonsense about tariffs and other economic ideas, to racist, sexist or bigoted statements from Trump that if they were said or written in any other context would be roundly condemned as being unacceptable.

[ajax18]

Even if there were a civil war of some kind, the red states would keep going through successive revolutions until they ended up with something else, maybe similar to Russia but maybe not.

So the red state people might as well let the blue state people leech off of them to fund their leisurely lifestyles because if it weren't Democrats selling their tax dollars for votes, someone else would take advantage of red state people in the same way?

[Dr Exiled]

… I suspect the powers that be wanted a war with Ukraine and Biden's cronies were heavily involved with Ukraine since at least before the 2014 coup we championed.

The powers that be, in this case, being Putin? Or was it Biden’s staff who turned on the Mind Ray Machine to force Putin to invade?

In hindsight, it appears that the war would have happened regardless had Trump been at the helm, given how useless Taco in Chief’s recent involvement has been and how impotent he has proven to be in swaying Putin’s actions.

Take a look at history and listen to John Mearsheimer or read some of his articles about how we pushed NATO ever east despite promising Russia otherwise. There also are other scholars out there that don't shill for defense contractors and our oligarchs. Our oligarchs have never forgotten how Putin took away their investments in Russia and have wanted to recoup their investments since that time. They toppled the USSR and of course deserved the spoils and all those juicy assets in the USSR. Putin, stupidly (perhaps criminally???) kicked them out. The rules based order, whatever that is, requires Putin to fall in line and let the pirates do their thing. Maybe he didn't get the memo of western oligarch greatness. Don't know. I guess Russia First was not supposed to be spoken in polite western society.

Also, look at how we armed Ukraine using the ruse of two supposed peace agreements and had pushed Ukraine to relentlessly shell the Russian population in eastern Ukraine and how the Ukrainians were about to go in those areas and cause some real damage until the Russians invaded. Although it's good you at least are seemingly relenting on the obvious Biden cognitive decline.

[canpakes]

The powers that be, in this case, being Putin? Or was it Biden’s staff who turned on the Mind Ray Machine to force Putin to invade?

In hindsight, it appears that the war would have happened regardless had Trump been at the helm, given how useless Taco in Chief’s recent involvement has been and how impotent he has proven to be in swaying Putin’s actions.

Take a look at history and listen to John Mearsheimer or read some of his articles about how we pushed NATO ever east despite promising Russia otherwise. There also are other scholars out there that don't shill for defense contractors and our oligarchs. Our oligarchs have never forgotten how Putin took away their investments in Russia and have wanted to recoup their investments since that time. They toppled the USSR and of course deserved the spoils and all those juicy assets in the USSR. Putin, stupidly (perhaps criminally???) kicked them out. The rules based order, whatever that is, requires Putin to fall in line and let the pirates do their thing. Maybe he didn't get the memo of western oligarch greatness. Don't know. I guess Russia First was not supposed to be spoken in polite western society.

Putin may be surprised to learn that you believe him to be so utterly helpless and controlled by any whim of any random oligarch existing outside of his country.

Perhaps these oligarchs should pool their vast resources in order to create a much stronger type of window glass.

Also, look at how we armed Ukraine using the ruse of two supposed peace agreements and had pushed Ukraine to relentlessly shell the Russian population in eastern Ukraine and how the Ukrainians were about to go in those areas and cause some real damage until the Russians invaded. Although it's good you at least are seemingly relenting on the obvious Biden cognitive decline.

I see. Russia invaded Ukraine because Ukraine shelled its own territory.

It’s kind of like if the US shelled Michigan if Canadian sympathizers there tried to cause some serious issues, and Canada got offended, and invaded the US NorthEastern Seaboard. Then invaded some mid-Atlantic states a half-decade later. Completely understandable.

[Gunnar]

...Doubling down shows that someone really needs the tribe badly...

That sums up quite a bit of what seems to drive Trump supporters to just keep repeating his lies and never be willing to learn about something in a neutral setting. I am astonished at what people repeat-- everything from nonsense about tariffs and other economic ideas, to racist, sexist or bigoted statements from Trump that if they were said or written in any other context would be roundly condemned as being unacceptable.

That's one of the things that upsets me the most about Trump. His sycophantic Republican supporters praise him and let him get away with saying things without the slightest trace of criticism, as you said, "that if they were said or written in any other context would be roundly condemned as being unacceptable."

[Gunnar]

Bill Clinton Makes Strong Claim About Joe Biden’s Cognitive Health

After Smith asked Clinton if he had ever had “a moment with [Biden]” where he felt that he was “unfit to run for president,” Clinton responded, “No. I thought he was a good president.”

“The only concern I thought he had to deal with was, could anybody do that job until they were 86?” Clinton continued, referring to Biden’s age. “We’d had several long talks. I had never seen him and walked away thinking ‘he can’t do this anymore.’”

Clinton added: “He was always on top of his briefs.”

Smith then pressed Clinton, asking again if he ever witnessed any cognitive decline in Biden, prompting Clinton to firmly reply “no.”

Sharing that he saw Biden “not very long ago,” Clinton said that he “thought he was in good shape.”

[Dr Exiled]

Take a look at history and listen to John Mearsheimer or read some of his articles about how we pushed NATO ever east despite promising Russia otherwise. There also are other scholars out there that don't shill for defense contractors and our oligarchs. Our oligarchs have never forgotten how Putin took away their investments in Russia and have wanted to recoup their investments since that time. They toppled the USSR and of course deserved the spoils and all those juicy assets in the USSR. Putin, stupidly (perhaps criminally???) kicked them out. The rules based order, whatever that is, requires Putin to fall in line and let the pirates do their thing. Maybe he didn't get the memo of western oligarch greatness. Don't know. I guess Russia First was not supposed to be spoken in polite western society.

Putin may be surprised to learn that you believe him to be so utterly helpless and controlled by any whim of any random oligarch existing outside of his country.

Perhaps these oligarchs should pool their vast resources in order to create a much stronger type of window glass.

Also, look at how we armed Ukraine using the ruse of two supposed peace agreements and had pushed Ukraine to relentlessly shell the Russian population in eastern Ukraine and how the Ukrainians were about to go in those areas and cause some real damage until the Russians invaded. Although it's good you at least are seemingly relenting on the obvious Biden cognitive decline.

I see. Russia invaded Ukraine because Ukraine shelled its own territory.

It’s kind of like if the US shelled Michigan if Canadian sympathizers there tried to cause some serious issues, and Canada got offended, and invaded the US NorthEastern Seaboard. Then invaded some mid-Atlantic states a half-decade later. Completely understandable.

1. Your oligarch comment makes no sense. You seemingly don't have any interest in actual history, for narrative sake I guess. There is a job for you with the Raytheon communication corps. Your love of war is disturbing. Take a look at the history and perhaps venture beyond the creche created for you and entertain that your team may be lying to you.

2. Here again, the Ukrainians were pushing to subdue the ethnic Russians in the east. They, the ethnic Russians, didn't like the US backed coup and were rebelling. The US backed and European backed Ukrainians were putting down a rebellion and provoking the Russians. It isn't that tough to realize, except the narrative police may be upset if you don't follow their bs.