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Doc Cam wrote: what do you think he would do to you?
Those on this board would admit that he would do the same to them but, they would claim it's their duty as pawns to serve the king -- they're not about to be wrong. However, the point remains that his staff apparently doesn't feel the same calling to serve hence the resignation shortly after finding out.
Jersey wrote:How would AF1 and the C-32A (or for that matter the new Qatar) aircraft differ under threat?
The real AF1 has superior defense capabilities so you'd want to be on that if you had a choice, but both AF1s are still obvious targets whereas nobody is expecting him to be on the C-32A. This is especially true after everyone including press is seen getting on Af1 -- given that most of his staff aside from his GF and a couple of bros were used as decoy's, the protection of the C-32A was supreme.
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Gadianton wrote:
Thu Aug 13, 2026 11:49 pm
Jersey wrote:How would AF1 and the C-32A (or for that matter the new Qatar) aircraft differ under threat?
The real AF1 has superior defense capabilities so you'd want to be on that if you had a choice, but both AF1s are still obvious targets whereas nobody is expecting him to be on the C-32A. This is especially true after everyone including press is seen getting on Af1 -- given that most of his staff aside from his GF and a couple of bros were used as decoy's, the protection of the C-32A was supreme.
Okay I thought they all had comparable defense capabilities by now, even the Qatar jet ...I can't recall if it's in service yet or if it's still being retrofitted/outfitted to meet defense standards.

I watched (sort of) something on youtube last night that said Bill Clinton was in a situation where they were going to switch and someone told him he couldn't put folks in harms way without their knowledge and consent. Don't take that as gospel, I was barely paying attention to it.

There's gotta be a reg or protocol for that.
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This has all the finest ingredients for a conspiracy theorist’s dream scenario.

Secret intelligence, an alleged Iranian assassination plot, Israeli sourcing, the CIA saying “low confidence,” a presidential motorcade diversion, Trump secretly switching aircraft, senior officials deliberately left on the decoy, and then… nothing happens to the decoy!

The conspiracy? The absence of an attack becomes evidence for “The Israelis fabricated the barely shielded threat to blackmail Trump into continuing the Iran war!”
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Limnor wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2026 12:18 am
This has all the finest ingredients for a conspiracy theorist’s dream scenario.

Secret intelligence, an alleged Iranian assassination plot, Israeli sourcing, the CIA saying “low confidence,” a presidential motorcade diversion, Trump secretly switching aircraft, senior officials deliberately left on the decoy, and then… nothing happens to the decoy!

The conspiracy? The absence of an attack becomes evidence for “The Israelis fabricated the barely shielded threat to blackmail Trump into continuing the Iran war!”
Well, if it was a publicity stunt to stay on the front page, then it was likely manufactured from the fake story about Putin switching limos and thereby escaping an assassination attempt. can't have Putin being the more savvy Bond type leader.
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Gadianton wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2026 3:03 am
Limnor wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2026 12:18 am
This has all the finest ingredients for a conspiracy theorist’s dream scenario.

Secret intelligence, an alleged Iranian assassination plot, Israeli sourcing, the CIA saying “low confidence,” a presidential motorcade diversion, Trump secretly switching aircraft, senior officials deliberately left on the decoy, and then… nothing happens to the decoy!

The conspiracy? The absence of an attack becomes evidence for “The Israelis fabricated the barely shielded threat to blackmail Trump into continuing the Iran war!”
Well, if it was a publicity stunt to stay on the front page, then it was likely manufactured from the fake story about Putin switching limos and thereby escaping an assassination attempt. can't have Putin being the more savvy Bond type leader.
Could be. What gets me is what seems like an overreaction to a low confidence assessment and then nothing actually happening. No arrests, no shots fired at the plane, but daring escape (as it were). The Israeli tipper is probably the most confusing bit about the story. Mossad has a better reputation than to be wrong about something like this.
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If the intel was as low-confidence as you say, then the idea for the "daring escape" must have come from the top by somebody known to have terrible judgment.
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Gadianton wrote:
Fri Aug 14, 2026 1:40 pm
If the intel was as low-confidence as you say, then the idea for the "daring escape" must have come from the top by somebody known to have terrible judgment.
I’d call it “low risk tolerance” with a touch of drama thrown in for spice.

Please see a couple of sources below that make this story interesting—and good fodder for conspiracy theorists (don’t get me wrong, I love a good conspiracy theory).

Source: “The Washington Post previously reported that the CIA had “low confidence” in an Iranian assassination threat against Trump shared by Israel.”

https://abcnews.com/amp/Politics/us-int ... =135631452

Additional Source: “A former official added that the warning received fit into “a broader pattern of Israeli intelligence reporting that some officials see as designed as much to shape presidential decision-making as to inform it.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 32325.html

Additional Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 026-08-13/
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Hey, MAGA board members, are you tired of your currency having advantageous purchasing power for your household? JD Vance thinks you should have to pay more for the things you enjoy.
Hiring a part-time news entertainment anchor as SecDef, what could go wrong?
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This is SO good. Video short. PoliticsGirl takes down congress. "This looks like crap". Yeah, it does and we paid for it. "indulgent caretakes of a brat". Yeah they are and we're paying for it.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ighm1mB5XLs
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Distaste for immigrants seems to have been the primary motivation for MAGA to have elected Trump.

Sometimes, though, some of those MAGA voters find their own loved ones in the crosshairs.

From the NYT:
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Ms. Bobreneva and Mr. Jindra waiting for her check-in with ICE in San Francisco.Credit...Gabriela Bhaskar/The New York Times


Brent Jindra, a tech salesman, voted for President Trump three times, drawn by his aggressive immigration agenda. He never imagined the crackdown would ensnare his own wife.

Last month, moments after the couple got off their flight in Burbank, Calif., a young man in a brown hooded sweatshirt stopped Galina Bobreneva.

“Congratulations, you’ve been chosen for secondary screening,” he told her, according to the couple’s recollection.

The man was a federal agent, and after questioning Ms. Bobreneva for about 15 minutes, he led her away in handcuffs to an unmarked vehicle.

“I’m only doing my job,” he said. “Everything will be OK.”

So began a 16-day ordeal: a night on the floor of a basement holding cell in downtown Los Angeles; two weeks in a Mojave Desert detention center and a frantic legal effort to win her release.

Freed on a $35,000 bond with an electronic monitor clamped to her ankle, she is now fighting to stay in the United States against federal charges of overstaying her visa.

Ms. Bobreneva, who is from Russia, has a pending green card application, and her lawyer asserts that she was never out of lawful status.

Her case represents a new front in President Trump’s mass deportation drive: arrests at airports of people whose visas have expired but who have active immigration cases and no criminal history.

Although green-card applicants with expired visas can be detained under federal law, previous administrations did not consider them to be in the country unlawfully. But as the Trump administration seeks to nearly double its daily arrests to 2,000 people, it is detaining and attempting to deport thousands of people who believed they were following the rules.

“The allure of the MAGA campaign was around illegal entries of criminals,” said Mr. Jindra, 48. “There was never a mandate for this president to turn the barrel of the gun and start going after people who legally entered.”

In response to questions about Ms. Bobreneva’s case, the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement that she was “an illegal alien” targeted for arrest because “she overstayed her welcome in violation of our nation’s laws.”

“To be clear, work authorization or a pending application do NOT confer legal status in the United States,” the agency said in a statement.

Mr. Trump’s immigration agenda, which helped propel him to the White House for a second term, is becoming a vulnerability for the Republican Party ahead of the midterms as even some members of his base have begun condemning ICE’s hard-line tactics.

Mr. Jindra considered himself a MAGA patriot until his wife’s detention.

“She did not jump a wall, she did not swim a river,” he said. “She came in Trump’s beautiful, big front door.”

Ms. Bobreneva arrived on a tourist visa in late 2021, extended it twice following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and applied for asylum in 2022. She met Mr. Jindra in March 2025 and by December they were married.
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