Voter Fraud

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canpakes wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:12 am
ajax18 wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:52 pm
The fake news efforts to show Biden with an insurmountable lead in the polls didn't seem to discourage Trump campaign donations as much as they hoped.
Of course not. The world is filled with plenty of suckers.
I am astounded anyone would give Trump money. Some people just need to be conned. That money would be better used to wipe the mark's ass.
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This idiot gave Trump $2.5 million for his legal fund because he was told by the Trump campaign that there was indisputable hard proof of voter fraud. Now that he realizes it was all another scam, he is suing to get his money back.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fred-esh ... 1b770aa2bf
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:13 pm
Ajax’s posts are classic illustrations of how conspiracy theorists reason. He starts by asserting a questionable premise — that economic nationalism is a slam-dunk winner. Let’s just examine that for a second.
And they are incapable of viewing the shear quantity of the existing evidence against their conspiracy theory as anything other than confirming evidence of the incredible magnitude and pervasiveness of the conspiracy. Just like the flat earthers who, when presented with the incontrovertible evidence against the flat earth, insist that said evidence only proves the persistence and cleverness of the round earth conspirators.
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Icarus wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:46 am
This idiot gave Trump $2.5 million for his legal fund because he was told by the Trump campaign that there was indisputable hard proof of voter fraud. Now that he realizes it was all another scam, he is suing to get his money back.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fred-esh ... 1b770aa2bf
Intelligent Trump supporters can be identified by the fact that they have a tendency to morph into ex-Trump supporters, it seems ...
A major contributor to a group backing President Donald Trump’s fight to overturn the presidential election sued to recover $2.5 million in donations after the campaign failed in several court cases and was unable to prove any fraud.

The lawsuit filed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in the Southern District of Texas by North Carolina venture capitalist Fred Eshelman argued that the nonprofit group True the Vote promised to keep him informed of how his millions were being used in what was pitched as a strong case against alleged election fraud. Instead, the suit alleged, he was fed “vague responses, platitudes and empty promises of follow-up” that never occurred.

He was kept in the dark when weak cases filed in Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia and Pennsylvania were voluntarily withdrawn in a decision the investor claimed was made in “concert with counsel for the Trump campaign,” the suit said.

In the Wisconsin case, Republican powerhouse attorney James Bopp promised that “evidence will be shortly forthcoming.” But Bopp withdrew the case last week just hours before scheduled oral arguments without ever providing a shred of evidence. Bopp won the the infamous Citizens United case before the U.S. Supreme Court, which opened the floodgates of dark money into campaigns.

A fed-up Eshelman last week ordered True the Vote in an email to immediately wire back his contribution. When the organization failed to comply, he filed the lawsuit.

Eshelman is a major Trump backer who has twice donated the maximum allowable individual contribution of $2,700 to Trump’s campaign, as well as a $100,000 contribution to the Trump Victory PAC, according to records.
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A major contributor to a group backing President Donald Trump’s fight to overturn the presidential election sued to recover $2.5 million in donations after the campaign failed in several court cases and was unable to prove any fraud.

The lawsuit filed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in the Southern District of Texas by North Carolina venture capitalist Fred Eshelman argued that the nonprofit group True the Vote promised to keep him informed of how his millions were being used in what was pitched as a strong case against alleged election fraud. Instead, the suit alleged, he was fed “vague responses, platitudes and empty promises of follow-up” that never occurred.

He was kept in the dark when weak cases filed in Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia and Pennsylvania were voluntarily withdrawn in a decision the investor claimed was made in “concert with counsel for the Trump campaign,” the suit said.

In the Wisconsin case, Republican powerhouse attorney James Bopp promised that “evidence will be shortly forthcoming.” But Bopp withdrew the case last week just hours before scheduled oral arguments without ever providing a shred of evidence. Bopp won the the infamous Citizens United case before the U.S. Supreme Court, which opened the floodgates of dark money into campaigns.

A fed-up Eshelman last week ordered True the Vote in an email to immediately wire back his contribution. When the organization failed to comply, he filed the lawsuit.

Eshelman is a major Trump backer who has twice donated the maximum allowable individual contribution of $2,700 to Trump’s campaign, as well as a $100,000 contribution to the Trump Victory PAC, according to records.

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canpakes wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:32 am

OK. Feel free to post examples of this widespread use of narrow and targeted voter fraud, when you’re ready.
yes, what a great use of time and energy it would be to cast such pearls before thee.
It is. Like the theory of gravity.
Quite different in fact, especially since gravity is a law, and the pending Pennsylvania resolution might firmly plant your hypothetical into the manure for which it belongs.
But i get ya, who needs facts when you're a Democrat.
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subgenius wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:45 pm
canpakes wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:32 am

OK. Feel free to post examples of this widespread use of narrow and targeted voter fraud, when you’re ready.
yes, what a great use of time and energy it would be to cast such pearls before thee.
I get it.

Once Trump's lawyers were assuring us all that they had lots and lots of evidence which, when they presented it in court, would convince everybody that the election was only called for Biden because of massive fraud.

Then, oddly enough, the evidence either wasn't there after all, or the judges were unconvinced and threw the cases out.

NOW - there really is lots and lots of evidence of widespread fraud, but it can only be shown to those worthy to see it. Hmm. I'm not sure whether this is a Mormon 'sacred not secret' thing, or whether we are seeing the same trick that Scientology pulls: the poor paying rubes fork over the dollars until finally they get to read the story about Xenu and the people dumped into the volcano. But by the time they are finally allowed to see the nonsense for what it is, the organisation has releived them of all their spare cash, and they are reluctant to admit how thoroughly they have been stiffed, so they suck it up and say nothing ...
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canpakes wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:10 am
Res Ipsa wrote:
Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:13 pm
Ajax’s posts are ... (sooo much stuff follows)
You ... you and your paragraphs. : D
And there’s more. So, Ajax starts from a flawed premise, that economic nationalism is a winner, crowns Trump the champion of economic nationalism, and creates this elaborate conspiratorial narrative to explain Trump’s loss. Then he makes this conspiracy so powerful that the loss of one election means the American people will never be able to get what they really want — economic nationalism.

This is the kind of thinking that leads people to conspire to execute governors.
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subgenius wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:45 pm
... the pending Pennsylvania resolution might firmly plant your hypothetical into the manure for which it belongs.
But i get ya, who needs facts when you're a Democrat.
Might? How about won’t? ; )

Otherwise, bookmark my post, and come back to correct me when it happens.

OK. Feel free to post examples of this widespread use of narrow and targeted voter fraud, when you’re ready.
yes, what a great use of time and energy it would be to cast such pearls before thee.
What you’re trying to say, but don’t have the nutsack to come right out and say it, is that you have nothing to show that will support your asinine trumpian assertions.

Or, as was recently said by someone, and modified by another for accuracy:

“But i get ya, who needs facts when you're a Trump voter?”
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Chap wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:10 pm
But by the time they are finally allowed to see the nonsense for what it is, the organisation has releived them of all their spare cash, and they are reluctant to admit how thoroughly they have been stiffed, so they suck it up and say nothing ...
In the meantime, all of this thumb sucking and rocking back and forth while crouched in the corner and screaming, “but there must be vOtEr FrAuD that made Trump lose!!1!”, looks unbecoming for a supposed adult.
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