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The Erotic Apologist wrote:...Lucian Foster...


You Might want to look at the on-line "Utah Historical Quarterly"
Vol. 40, No. 1 (Winter 1972), which says:

September 13, 1846, at Winter Quarters, Nebraska Territory:
"Lucian R. Foster was cut off from the Church by the Branch
at New York for apostacy."14 Whether Foster continued to pursue
his daguerreian skills in New York -- or on the American frontier --
is now unknown.... Marsena Cannon, Utah's first resident
photographer [had] his first advertisement in the Deseret News
[on Dec. 10, 1850]...

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Wow! Thanks again!

FYI, there's a database of American daguerreotypists at http://craigcamera.com. It has entries for Charles Savage and Marsena Cannon, but nothing on Lucian Foster. Not yet, anyway.
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Uncle Dale wrote:...the gallant, dashing devil that he was...
More like the stuff of nightmares. :surprised: That has to be one of the creepiest old photos I've ever seen. :lol:
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SCARY STUFF!

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That's pretty much what I was thinking. :lol:

And just because it's Halloween, here's a postmortem daguerreotype of Edgar Allen Poe in his coffin...supposedly. The latest theory on his death says he succumbed to rabies.

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I can't help but wonder if there's a postmortem daguerreotype of Joseph Smith floating around out there. Postmortem photos were popular, and there seems to have been at least one daguerreotypist in Nauvoo--Lucian Foster. If there was time to cast a death mask, there would also have been time for a postmortem dag.
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The Erotic Apologist wrote:...And just because it's Halloween...


Oh, yeah -- costumes. Let's see what I've got in my files...

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>Another character now makes his appearance upon the scene,
>which is no less a personage than the devil himself. His Satanic
>Majesty is ably represented by W. W. Phelps, who looks every
>inch a devil. He was dressed in a tight-fitting suit of black velvet,
>fancifully ornamented, consisting of a short jacket and knee-breeches
>cut in the Italian style, with black stockings and slippers....
>
>The curse is then pronounced upon the serpent, etc., and Phelps
>runs out on his hands and knees, hissing, to represent a snake...
>
>New York World
>December 21, 1869

To comply with board rules I will not hint at what the context
of this ludicrous scenario might have been: just think of it as an
1869 Halloween celebration, in a time and place far, far away.

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Uncle Dale wrote:To comply with board rules I will not hint at what the context of this ludicrous scenario might have been...

Yes, I think I understand what you're getting at. :lol:

Uncle Dale wrote:...just think of it as an 1869 Halloween celebration, in a time and place far, far away.

The mask was definitely an improvement.
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Uncle Dale wrote:...I've got more good scans too in that part...
Here's a graphic for you to play with, if you like -- might fit into
the timeline where the Book of Mormon characters overlap with
what was going on in Book of Abraham "translation."

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or, maybe this one is better:
http://www.olivercowdery.com/smithhome/ ... helps3.jpg
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Hi Dale,

Thanks a lot for the photo, I will def. do something with it. I'm fascinated by Phelps. I think he was more of a partner with Joseph in the early days of the church than Oliver Cowdery. He is the only person that I know of who Joseph said to write doctrine for the church. (1833 letter to Phelps).

Glad to see you here, I love your site, and spend hours and hours there reading. I love your notes, and hate those two words... "under construction". I'll read something really interesting and get to the bottom and see that and go.. rats! (Your notes are great).

Thanks again,

If you need any art, let me know, be glad to help. I sent you a few newspaper articles that I found....
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grindael wrote:.
Hi Dale,

...

If you need any art, let me know, be glad to help. I sent you a few newspaper articles that I found....


Yeah... We really ought to cooperate on something or another.
My e-mail address is attached to most of my web-pages. Let
me know what we might be able to do.

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grindael wrote:...
If you need any art
...


Here's a page I'm working on this month.

I could use a jazzy graphic of W. W. Phelps, his wife, Thomas B. Marsh, his wife,
Brigham Young, and his sister, Mrs. Stilson, all singing "Redeemer of Israel" in
an 1830 Canandaigua prayer-circle. (Yes, they were all there -- and, no, it never
made it into the official text for "History of the Church"...)

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